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Post by kristyrose on Jan 26, 2018 21:15:04 GMT
I woke feeling ok but as the day is progressing I do feel quite triggered. I almost feel like I don't know what to do, even though there is nothing to be done. I don't even know if he will respond to my email, I don't know if he cares, I just feel so alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 21:18:49 GMT
from the outside looking in i would be astonished if you weren’t triggered kristyrose. It’s been a very intense few days. weeks. now would be the time to be your own best friend and practice what you know about self soothing and nurturing. You aren’t alone even tho you feel it. But you are in a really painful place. If you put your focus on you and taking good care of you right now, you may be able to prevent hurting yourself more with triggered reactions you will regret later. be your own best friend right now. 🌺
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 26, 2018 21:23:56 GMT
thank you. I know you are absolutely right and I will take these words to heart.
I am in a dark place today, so will try to focus on gratitude for what I do have in my life.
How are you doing today?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 21:28:29 GMT
Gratitude is so powerful. It’s a great elixer! I feel much better today. Yesterday i was able to let some very powerful feelings come to the surface and it was really inspired by your empathetic and caring listening presence! I feel good. I am moving through stages of grief myself and am pleased actually with my progress through it, I can see and feel it. Being involved with this board is keeping me mindful to old habits and helping me choose the new, healthier habits instead in spite of the pain i feel. Today, i feel inspired and empowered and peaceful! Thank you kristyrose.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 26, 2018 21:29:49 GMT
Gratitude is so powerful. It’s a great elixer! I feel much better today. Yesterday i was able to let some very powerful feelings come to the surface and it was really inspired by your empathetic and caring listening presence! I feel good. I am moving through stages of grief myself and am pleased actually with my progress through it, I can see and feel it. Being involved with this board is keeping me mindful to old habits and helping me choose the new, healthier habits instead in spite of the pain i feel. Today, i feel inspired and empowered and peaceful! Thank you kristyrose. THIS literally is the best thing I have heard all day!!! this warms my heart and inspires me as well. You are so very brave- WOW. Just really truly admire you. I am tearing up when I read your post because it gives me hope, but also I just feel happy you are doing so much better today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 21:30:10 GMT
I was in a dark place yesterday and much better today, it will keep changing and you will have healing and insight along the way, so each moment you have to try your best to do the next right thing by you. Love yourself today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 21:41:35 GMT
I woke feeling ok but as the day is progressing I do feel quite triggered. I almost feel like I don't know what to do, even though there is nothing to be done. I don't even know if he will respond to my email, I don't know if he cares, I just feel so alone. He cares. I think it's natural after a break up to think that you are hurting a lot and the ex is just going about their day without a care or a feeling. Both sides hurt and it can't be measured by the other's actions. The pain is personal and private. No one can really know the extent of your pain. It's hard to have so much more time alone too. You miss the person, the plans, the companionship, and the relationship. You think that contact with them will make you feel better, but sometimes it just hurts more. Take care of you.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 26, 2018 21:47:04 GMT
Thank you Mary.
You are right, I'm just reacting. I'm sure there are feelings on his end as well. I need to stop wondering why he came back to me for 9 months as he did, only to say he doesnt want me. I do not think he is evil, I don't know if he is narcissistic like tgat suggested, he could be, i just don't know. i only know that i still love him so much and can feel myself still trying to understand him when i need to deal with my own feelings.
of course, all i want is to hear from him, but perhaps he is done talking to me as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 21:56:05 GMT
i don’t know if he is either, but the focus on your healing is the most important i think
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 26, 2018 22:02:11 GMT
I was just reading about narcissistic personality disorder, a lot of does seem like him, i guess i never thought of that and wanted to focus more on our attachment styles.
but yes, no matter now. i have to try and focus on the healing, so hard to do today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 22:23:57 GMT
i think it’s wise to educate yourself about that for sure, and also keep the focus of your energy on the toll this relationship is taking on you and how you can best grow beyond your own patterns and pain. There are a lot of great resources online about recovering from narcissistic abuse and dynamics. You’re doing the right thing to take a breath and rest and share here.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 27, 2018 0:41:23 GMT
gonna go meet up with some friends and try to breathe. i ate a meal, been having trouble eating regularly and will try to not stare at my phone hoping he responds to me. thank you all very much, i am so grateful for the support.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 1:08:13 GMT
good for you, that’s how it’s done! ❤️
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 2:39:22 GMT
Hi. How did your chat go? This forum is so good to see there are others with similar problems like me out there. I also had chat with me DA last night. They are such hard work. Same as you I am feeling like I am much more moving to a secure person. We broke up a month ago, and though our chat came to no conclusion yet again, I am not in pieces today. Hope your chat went well...though even if it did...it is a constant struggle. I am still hopeful though its possible for a DA or FA to realise what and why they do things they way they do and try to improve Hi Lucy and everyone, Well the chat went horribly. I stuck my agenda of calling out how we are interacting, that we obviously still enjoy being with each other etc. and that I would like to just acknowledge and enjoy what we have now with no pressure and expectations. Well he had a different idea. He said that while he hasn't been dating at all since our break-up, he wants to be open to meeting new people and that his main goal is for us to stay friends. He basically denied that we have spent the past 9 months dating! He was very stoic and said we simply hung out, it was fun, but he doesn't want a relationship. He said he regards his friends very highly, that he wants to know if I can see myself as his friend. I said it would take NC and probably years to even consider that. He said, well I'm willing to take the risk of you taking a break while you decide if you want to be my friend. I was so shocked. I did not expect this. I thought if anything he would possibly agree to some terms of where we are at- not deny reality entirely! We have been going on dates, spending weekends at each other house, and he acts like we were just buddies after 2.5 yrs. I lost it and started crying. It was just too much. I told him I don't want to lose him, but obviously we want different things. We argued back and forth about stupid details like who texted who first and when i pointed out all the times he reached out when I tried to get space, he basically downplayed it and said maybe he was just bored essentially. It was crazy making and the past two days I'm just numb and hurt. I know I went along with it but I had hope. I told him how much I cherished the past 9 months he said he cherished our time as a couple ,but didn't feel the same as me about the 9 months. It was shocking! I know know he is avoidant, so tried to keep that in mind, but this was so cold as if I wasn't even there. I am at a total loss. I just joined this forum as a recently self-diagnosed AP, who just finished for the final time (I hope) with my FA after about six months. In retrospect, as a young man (early twenties) I was very AP but absolutely clueless about it - but somehow ended with someone slightly AP but more secure and remained married for 12 years. I'm now 43, divorced at 40, and have just spent the final two months of my relationship buried in researching attachment theory which has been truly eye-opening for me. Of course I thought knowing about my and my FA's driving emotions and attachment styles would help me navigate it better, but of course it did nothing of the sort; it only made me more anxious. I found myself unwittingly trying to be my ex's therapist - albeit passively - and not her partner as I delighted in the idea of sharing everything I had been learning about "us," and why our relationship was starting to disintegrate and how we could "fix" it. Being an AP this seemingly is a natural inclination - wanting to fix, trying to be open, talking too much perhaps, trying to be vulnerable but probably just coming across needy and triggering my FA's flight response. I've only read a few of your posts, but your relationship's progression sounds remarkably like mine, albeit compressed into six months. After a huge blow up where it was all over, again, I went no contact but told her she could call me if she really needed to (guilt on my side knowing about her abandonment issues.) Two days later I get a call at 7am asking if we could try again. She too seemed massively pressured by the idea of being tagged in a relationship, so instead we were going to be see each other exclusively for dates and to keep it "light and simple" -- yes -- a meaningless differentiation to me, but I agreed. Thankfully (yes) on our first date I drank way too much wine and got triggered by her pulling out her phone to text people a couple of times. I was/am in love with her, in as much as an AP can be with an FA, and I had a month's worst of suppressed frustrations after her last withdrawal (she basically went AWOL for two weeks after an incredibly intimate Christmas together). My outburst just served to help her gaslight me further as an "insecure jealous psycho", and she left the bar. A day later, we broke up for the last time (Jan 12th.) I have been waking up every day with butterflies since early December and I just want it to go away. We're still in contact now because I am "important" to her, and even though I know no-contact is what I need, I can't do it. The very fact I know her deepest insecurities and fears as an FA, and my being an AP means I am trapped in this cycle, even now. My greatest wish and also my biggest fear is that we'll get back together. I don't even know why I am responding to your post because I know I cannot help you. I think the key points I've been focusing on is that you cannot fix them. I most recently read these two articles, getting the most reassurance from pt2. Maybe they'll help you. www.goodtherapy.org/blog/ending-anxious-avoidant-dance-part-1-opposing-attachment-styles-0518174www.goodtherapy.org/blog/ending-anxious-avoidant-dance-part-2-built-in-path-to-healing-0518175Look after yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 2:46:36 GMT
Hi everyone, Yesterday I just spent some time crying and trying to be with how I'm feeling. I really appreciate the different points on view and advice on here. If I'm honest with myself, going NC would be to see if he will come back to me. I think I just need to first accept the reality of things. He is able to act as friends, take away the physical stuff and keep me around while he "lives his life"- meaning, he will hang out with me but find someone else and then stop talking to me. I'm just a source of comfort, not someone he can see himself being with anymore. This is very painful because his actions told such a different story. I'm trying to understand and realize that despite that, his perspective was different than mine. I felt romantic closeness, he just felt perhaps comfort but nothing more. I will honestly never know at this point what he felt, all I can do now is deal with the reality. He doesn't want me. I truly thought this talk would help bring us closer, but deep down I knew the risk in it ending things permanently. I have done NC with him twice, both times he came back and both times it was agony for me. I'm trying to figure out the best way forward and instead of declaring anything to him, I think I will just stand still for now and try to process what has happened. I feel like I was turned over my head and shaken around, I just need my bearings. He mentioned feeling trapped sometimes, now I feel trapped. This post on Reddit is magnificent and really helped me understand NC: www.reddit.com/r/ExNoContact/comments/5f6h6e/its_not_no_contact_that_has_them_begging_for_a/
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