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Post by tnr9 on Jun 23, 2018 1:17:06 GMT
I am not a fan of texting...too much room to misinterpret each other..you cannot see each other's faces and you are left with your own memory of what the other person's tone and intention were. I honestly would have called him when he spoke about putting in equal effort and asked if you and he could meet and discuss it face to face. But he triggered you, you triggered him....welcome to insecure attachments engaging with each other.
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Post by exhausteddecay on Jun 23, 2018 1:31:38 GMT
Can you please explain to me what was triggering to a Dismissive Avoidant? And thank you, next time if there is one, I will call.
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Post by tnr9 on Jun 23, 2018 1:38:25 GMT
The moment he said it was a two way street...that would have been a good time to simply acknowledge what he had to say..even if you disagreed with him...but you can tell your response did not address what was triggering to him..so he said it again..only this time he used the word "effort" which is a stronger word..carries more weight. Because you are in it..this likely felt like "blame"..and you see how you even added that you have been putting in effort after that comment. However, somehow, he is feeling like you are not...at least..he is saying from his point of view something is skewed. He may not even be talking about effort to communicate..that may just be a convenient place for him to speak to it...but he was rattled..and then you became rattled and you were talking at each other and not to each other. Does that help?
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Post by exhausteddecay on Jun 23, 2018 1:44:27 GMT
Yes absolutely, thank you. Would you advise texting him asking if he still wants to hang out tomorrow to please let me know or just say nothing and stay away?
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Post by tnr9 on Jun 23, 2018 1:54:42 GMT
Yes absolutely, thank you. Would you advise texting him asking if he still wants to hang out tomorrow to please let me know or just say nothing and stay away? Your last text to him was that you were not going to contact him, that he could contact you. The other thing is I don't know if he is still triggered or receptive to you reaching out. You could always wait and if he does not reach out tomorrow, you could send him a quick text asking how he is and that you missed seeing him. He sounds easily triggered....are you sure you want to work around his triggering? From that short text, he does not sound like he is really able to meet you half way and work with you on your triggering..that may end up leading you to feel resentful.
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Post by exhausteddecay on Jun 23, 2018 2:01:06 GMT
Honestly I've been in love with this person for over 7 years now and I can't really do much else. I have really really tried almost everything. I will take your advice and not text him tonight. Knowing him he won't contact me again, for some reason he seems to enjoy power play so I fold just so I can talk to him again. I feel immensely guilty moving on but I'm drained. Thank you for your insight, I really appreciate it.
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Post by mrob on Jun 23, 2018 2:24:40 GMT
Texting is a really flawed mode of communication. Either way, when you’re both triggered, nothing good is going to come out of it. If you’re not getting your needs met after 7 years, then step out of the dynamic. That’s a long time to waste if you really want more, and the other person is not willing/able to come to the party, or have an open conversation to move forward.
I would really feel manipulated with the last comment about sabotage. It might be something as simple as getting used to a balance between AP phone bombing and DA silence. Finding that medium.
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Post by exhausteddecay on Jun 23, 2018 2:47:54 GMT
I know I have a part in this too, therefore it hurts to hear that something I said may have been manipulative because I meant it in a loving way. My needs do get met occasionally when I finally state a need clearly rather than alluding to it. I don't want to end the friendship but relationship wise I realize we are too different to both be satisfied. Thank you.
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Post by tnr9 on Jun 23, 2018 11:00:04 GMT
A really good rule of thumb is to always use "I" when speaking to someone regardless of communication vehicle. I am AP, so I get where you are coming from and I see in your last post a form of justification...my needs get met...sometimes. It is that "sometimes" that keeps us hooked..because I bet if he did not meet your needs at all you would be able to move on from him. Instead, you are getting a breadcrumb and trying to make a meal out of it (hoping that if you just stick in it long enough, you will be rewarded with the actual meal). I have been there too.
If I am going to be really honest...you catering to his triggers is not going to, in the end, change who he is. I know I thought that if I could just learn enough about attachment theory and change my behavior..surely he would also change as a result (or at least I would become more of what he wanted and thus he would never consider anyone else). All that will change is your awareness of his triggers, it will not change his attachment style..it will not heal his attachment wounding. The best thing you can do...is to stop focusing on him and really get clear about you...because a love that is worth it will not meet your needs "sometimes"... he won't ignore when you tell him something triggers you...he will be able to work through major and minor disagreements...he will want to work with you in a partnership. Someone once posted this question to me..do you spend most of your time feeling loved or longing for it? There is not a right answer, but consider where you spend most of your time....feeling loved or longing for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 17:21:43 GMT
this doesn't sound like a DA interaction at all. possible FA?
and this kind of exchange , OVER TEXT, after that length of time? i'd be exhausted too- but that's on you.
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Post by exhausteddecay on Jun 24, 2018 14:26:27 GMT
Yes, it's on me. Which is a great thing to realize because I can get myself out. It feels good to know that and to have the courage to free myself from toxic situations. I am backing off and detaching as of now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 15:11:20 GMT
Yes, it's on me. Which is a great thing to realize because I can get myself out. It feels good to know that and to have the courage to free myself from toxic situations. I am backing off and detaching as of now. ❤️ i've had to do this also when i recognized my own patterns keeping me stuck. it's difficult. growth and change is hard work, but it amounts to healing and liberation from our wounds, and we are more than capable of achieving this. it just takes diligence and discipline and some faith in yourself.
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Post by goldilocks on Jun 25, 2018 4:44:55 GMT
He sounds FA or plaing games, you sound AP and both of you sound like you are in your own way and need to chill a little and not take things too personally. Look up my post on generosity of spirit.
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Post by tnr9 on Jun 25, 2018 14:37:56 GMT
Hey Goldilocks...listening to the Generosity of Spirit podcast right now...thank you for posting about it.
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Post by exhausteddecay on Jun 29, 2018 17:55:01 GMT
Wow, gecko. Thank you so much! Are you FA or have you dated someone who is FA?
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