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Post by lilyg on Oct 18, 2018 10:11:16 GMT
Aw, lilyg, I'm sorry you're in so much pain. Try to keep yourself present. Neither of you can change the past and you can't predict the future. But, at present, you are good. He is with you and he is working hard to make it work because he loves you. That's your reassurance right there. And, it's so much better and means so much more than just words. Keep telling yourself you are simply activated. Stop texting him and trying to repair until you are in a calmer state. You can do this. Thank you Future, means a lot to me I understand he's working on it. I cannot do anything but give him space and state its important for me to repair while calmer, I hope he can reach me at the middle. It's painful that on these tense moments our needs clash. I need him, he needs space. I was clearly super activaded, but now I just feel sad about it, angry at myself, telling myself I need time to lose that insecurity as much as he needs time to heal and trust. I don't want to text him more as it just reminds me he is mad Guess I was trying to extend an olive branch. I am glad he answers everything and I guess that is his way of showing that he's mad and needs space but he's not shutting me down completely. Who knows. But yes, I'm trying to deal with my pain in a more secure way. Thank you for reminding me that Today I was going to get some gifts from a band he likes and give them to him (I've planned this already since monday as the band wrote me that they were ready for me to pick them up). I'll take them home but wait until he is calmer and wants to see me. It just pains me a little to not have the freedom to see him or write him, I guess. Another thing is: not drinking and start to eat more so I don't repeat this with the people I love.
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Post by lilyg on Oct 18, 2018 10:25:19 GMT
Lilyg - did you "freak out", when you were drunk ? If thatΒ΄s the case, then the logic part of your brain (I cant remember the right word right now), doesnΒ΄t funktion as good. It is much easier to get flloded and in the fight, flight mode (drama) and get too much ativation in the nerveussystem when you are drunk. Sounds like his words made you even more angry. So try to forgive yourself. You can try to use the paradoxial change method to accept all your feelings and also the angermeditation (Leonard Jacobsen) together with the watertank exercise. You can also use a towel and hold it and squize it. And when you meet again you can tell him how you have felt about the situation and what you need him to do and not to do/say or not to say in the future ect. Yes, I was really drunk, like... I don't even know how I got to that point, we usually go out and have some drinks and have an amazing time but I just went over the top on the drinks, I guess. I feel very ashamed. I'm old enough to know this kind of behaviour is not ok. I understand he was upset too and had drinks too. He was with me and got me home so I wasn't alone getting there. I'll try them, thank you I feel calm now, just sad. I think I can perfectly see what's going on with him and me. Of course I'll try to talk to him about it and se how it goes. At least, I can say I have no ill feelings toward him and I really appreciate everything he has done to be with me. I wish I could be as rational as this when all this happened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 10:41:32 GMT
Aw, lilyg, I'm sorry you're in so much pain. Try to keep yourself present. Neither of you can change the past and you can't predict the future. But, at present, you are good. He is with you and he is working hard to make it work because he loves you. That's your reassurance right there. And, it's so much better and means so much more than just words. Keep telling yourself you are simply activated. Stop texting him and trying to repair until you are in a calmer state. You can do this. Lilyg, I am so sorry your having to go through these feelings and emotions. It is so hard trying to be secure for two people whilst your still trying to heal yourself from past hurts and potentially future hurts and uncertainties. You are doing amazing and I'm sure your partner loves you very much. Sending you a big hug sweetheart Xx
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Post by lilyg on Oct 18, 2018 11:16:22 GMT
Aw, lilyg, I'm sorry you're in so much pain. Try to keep yourself present. Neither of you can change the past and you can't predict the future. But, at present, you are good. He is with you and he is working hard to make it work because he loves you. That's your reassurance right there. And, it's so much better and means so much more than just words. Keep telling yourself you are simply activated. Stop texting him and trying to repair until you are in a calmer state. You can do this. Lilyg, I am so sorry your having to go through these feelings and emotions. It is so hard trying to be secure for two people whilst your still trying to heal yourself from past hurts and potentially future hurts and uncertainties. You are doing amazing and I'm sure your partner loves you very much. Sending you a big hug sweetheart Xx Thank you you're always so sweet. I hope he's able to see this. I don't see it so sure right now.
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Post by 8675309 on Oct 18, 2018 11:34:31 GMT
Sorry to hear. Have you ever looked up Ester Hicks? Its a lot about manifesting, control thoughts in a positive way, living in abundance, etc to empower you to be your best self. Maybe this can help in your healing journey. Its outside the box of Drs, attachment, etc.
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Post by lilyg on Oct 18, 2018 11:40:40 GMT
Sorry to hear. Have you ever looked up Ester Hicks? Its a lot about manifesting, control thoughts in a positive way, living in abundance, etc to empower you to be your best self. Maybe this can help in your healing journey. Its outside the box of Drs, attachment, etc. Thank you so much, I'll hace a look at it tonight!
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Post by tnr9 on Oct 18, 2018 11:43:14 GMT
Well, again we had a fight. I behaved like a drunk ass, as a friend of him told me that when he was unsure about us behaved like he had a lot of options but then she guess he didn't. It made me feel like a second option. At the time we got back from breaking up he explained to me that it took time for him to be in love and that he was terrible at relationships. So I felt lied to. I was so mad about this. He started to point out, stressed, how drunk I was and I just exploded and got very mad. I even told him that maybe we needed to break up and I feel terrible to talk to him like that. I know anxiousness got the better of me. Very dramatic, I know. I feel ok to feel bad about that talk with his friend, but I feel terrible to react that way with someone I love so much. I've been trying to repair but even if he's answering the phone and texts he's mad and won't talk about it. He needs space and even if I understand... These days I need him to reassure me that he's not breaking up with me again. I've been willing to behave as he needs me when he's upset, and we've been working it out fine, but when we got back together I told him I needed reassurance and help from his part to get over the heartbreak of him leaving me, and trusting him again. We talked about why it happened and I understood but now I feel he lied to me. He told me he uses to tell his friends lies about his feelings as he feels uneasy talking about his feelings with them but really... I'm feeling very guillible right now. I have no doubts that now he wants to be with me and loves me, I feel like an a**hole not being able to just get past his feelings at first. It makes me feel like an insecure person and I hate it. I wish I could just focus on the now, and I try it everyday, but I guess this triggered me and I didn't behave good at all. So while I get his need for space and I feel terrible for not behaving my best, it pains me a lot that he's not understanding my need as he knows I'm insecure about this. I've been writing him good night and good morning and he answers right away. Not lovingly as other days, but I thank him and it makes me feel that he's very mad but not ignoring me. So I know he's trying. So know I'm here, giving him space and thinking if I can deal with this when I'm feeling doubts and pain over the past. I don't think I'll be able to work it out without his help. It pains me a lot yo think like this but I'm trying to be honest with myself. I know it takes time to heal, and we both need it. I need a leap of trust. I love him and I'm very invested in him and this relationship working, but this made me realise I have to work more on myself. I can see that I've been trying to be secure for us both but I have a long wey to go before I can be that safe anchor at all times. Well, here's for a bumpy ride. Lilly...I am so sorry to read you are going through another bump in your relationship. I have looked upon your strength with awe and have hoped to someday achieve that myself. I think you have far more capacity for relationships right now then he does...so that may be a bit of a hindrance is his ability to provide you with support. Old patterns die hard for all insecure attached individuals. I do take it as a good sign that he is responding to your texts in a timely fashion...I don't think if he wanted to break up with you he would respond. I hope it gets better..please reach out if you need any support that I can offer via PM.
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Post by 8675309 on Oct 18, 2018 11:55:17 GMT
Sorry to hear. Have you ever looked up Ester Hicks? Its a lot about manifesting, control thoughts in a positive way, living in abundance, etc to empower you to be your best self. Maybe this can help in your healing journey. Its outside the box of Drs, attachment, etc. Thank you so much, I'll hace a look at it tonight! Tons of Youtube videos. Ester/Abraham Hicks are what to look for.
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Post by lilyg on Oct 18, 2018 12:45:08 GMT
By the way, I understand, as he told me once, that he prefers to keep quiet while angry as to not upset me or tell me things he might regret later. So I can appreciate it, as I'm much more hot-headed, but I release rather quickly.
I guess my main concern is to create a dynamic in which we don't resent each other and are able to support each other as best as we can.
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Post by kristyrose on Oct 18, 2018 16:57:44 GMT
Hi lilyg,
I'm sorry to hear about the bump as well, but you both sound like you are trying and of course, you're only human so please don't beat yourself up anymore. I know we AP types tend to fall back into that nasty habit of hurting ourselves in the process of already feeling hurt.
In terms of input I would not so silent if he is reaching out to you. You said he responds but you've decided to keep silent all day- why is that?
I think if he is reaching out, you should be just as responsive to him as he is to you unless he states he needs space. Trust me, I went silent on my FA ex a few weeks ago and he was furious that I didn't hold myself accountable to the same conduct as him.
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Post by lilyg on Oct 18, 2018 17:16:17 GMT
Hi lilyg, I'm sorry to hear about the bump as well, but you both sound like you are trying and of course, you're only human so please don't beat yourself up anymore. I know we AP types tend to fall back into that nasty habit of hurting ourselves in the process of already feeling hurt. In terms of input I would not so silent if he is reaching out to you. You said he responds but you've decided to keep silent all day- why is that? I think if he is reaching out, you should be just as responsive to him as he is to you unless he states he needs space. Trust me, I went silent on my FA ex a few weeks ago and he was furious that I didn't hold myself accountable to the same conduct as him. Thank you so much for your input, kristyrose. I'm feeling calmer right now. I usually can handle him angry and leave him alone and he usually comes back after a couple of hours. But now, as I know it's my fault... Anyway. I know how not to do it again. Well, he's anwered good night and good morning texts un a neutral way, he has asked me for space. I was planning on going silent but I think it may back fire as it was my fault. I'll probably wish him good night.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 19:52:37 GMT
You're right, I guess I won't text him again until he initiates. Thank you all! Thinking of you Lilyg, hope you manage to get some rest. Bless you Xx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 19:55:33 GMT
Hi lilyg, I'm sorry to hear about the bump as well, but you both sound like you are trying and of course, you're only human so please don't beat yourself up anymore. I know we AP types tend to fall back into that nasty habit of hurting ourselves in the process of already feeling hurt. In terms of input I would not so silent if he is reaching out to you. You said he responds but you've decided to keep silent all day- why is that? I think if he is reaching out, you should be just as responsive to him as he is to you unless he states he needs space. Trust me, I went silent on my FA ex a few weeks ago and he was furious that I didn't hold myself accountable to the same conduct as him. Thinking of you kirstyrose. I am so sorry you are having to go through all this heartache again. Your in my thoughts lovely, hope you manage to get some sleep, please take care Xx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 21:52:05 GMT
Thinking of you Lilyg, hope you manage to get some rest. Bless you Xx Thank you π how are you? I've been actually sleeping a lot lately. I'm trying to eat more so I'm not exhausted. We had talked a bit and he's being warm and want to see me tomorrow. I want to hear him. I'm very embarrassed, but very willing to apologise in person and help him and myself. I'm thankful and I actually think he's being very reasonable. It helps me a lot to lose fear. Thank you all π it's always a pleasure. I'll try to give as much as I'm receiving here. Aww this is so good to hear lilyg, all is not lost and that's really how it should be for two people who love each other. We all make human mistakes from time to time. My bf and I have a words a few times after a few to many drinks. He has other issues beside his attachment that play out a lot in the relationship, but I have stuff outside of my attachment that I need to work on too. It is what it is, some days are a lot easier than others, but the love is there from both sides so take each day as it comes for now. Your last post made me smile from ear to ear, these dynamics can work, if you work at it and that is refreshing and rare on this forum ππππ
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 22:57:25 GMT
Thank you π how are you? I've been actually sleeping a lot lately. I'm trying to eat more so I'm not exhausted. We had talked a bit and he's being warm and want to see me tomorrow. I want to hear him. I'm very embarrassed, but very willing to apologise in person and help him and myself. I'm thankful and I actually think he's being very reasonable. It helps me a lot to lose fear. Thank you all π it's always a pleasure. I'll try to give as much as I'm receiving here. Aww this is so good to hear lilyg, all is not lost and that's really how it should be for two people who love each other. We all make human mistakes from time to time. My bf and I have a words a few times after a few to many drinks. He has other issues beside his attachment that play out a lot in the relationship, but I have stuff outside of my attachment that I need to work on too. It is what it is, some days are a lot easier than others, but the love is there from both sides so take each day as it comes for now. Your last post made me smile from ear to ear, these dynamics can work, if you work at it and that is refreshing and rare on this forum ππππ So true, It's so nice to see when 2 people can love and work it out even when it's difficult.
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