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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:11:45 GMT
This forum scares me now. Feeling very vunerable ATM. And please no das comment on this saying I'm a sensitive child who needs to be pussy footed around.
I actually do feel upset as to what happened to Rockgirl and Christie
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:28:43 GMT
They were both bullied but Rockgirl more
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:47:59 GMT
I understand you feel vulnerable and scared... it's tricky talking about consent though. And, DAs are going to be so much more hypervigilant to impingement, it's going to feel even more unsafe the idea of some stranger touching you. This conversation isn't just about women's rights to their bodily autonomy and the right to feel safe and what the rules should be, although it absolutely is, but it's also going to bring up attachment stuff all the same. Is it any wonder that the DAs reacted that way to some of the things that were said? Is it any wonder people get angry when a man isn't held accountable for his actions? Or that it is trivialised that women can feel too unsafe to communicate that they are uncomfortable when a man ignores the non-verbals. If consent isn't clear, your sense of safety suffers for that, right? I don't want Rockgirl and Christie to have left, but at the end of the day, we're going to trigger each other in this forum and that is the nature of these kinds of very intimate conversations that are not clear cut... they didn't need to leave really, they could have waded through the difficult conversation. What are we going to do here, not be ourselves? We are going to trigger each other.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 21:03:18 GMT
Some things said by Rockgirl clearly annoyed multiple people, and they expressed that. We should be allowed to do that here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 21:05:37 GMT
One more time - they were bullied
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 21:13:58 GMT
One more time - they were bullied Yes, from your perspective. From mine, there was an argument. I asked what you propose ought to happen, you didn't reply to that.
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Post by tnr9 on Nov 17, 2018 21:18:29 GMT
Here is the thing...we are all adults here...we are not in high school. If anyone feels bullied, then they have choices on how to respond. I believe that Jeb was contacted and he determined that no one was required to leave or be banned. We have to respect his decision since this is his forum. Certainly there is room for people to create other forums if they chose to or to stop engaging here...but I think this topic should be closed and we should return to the topics on attachment.
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Post by faithopelove on Nov 17, 2018 21:41:13 GMT
I'm sorry bloom - I don't know what you're talking about. But it was bullying plain and simple. it was wrong. Jeb was contacted and made his determination on the thread. He basically said leave or stay- if uncomfortable, stay in the support threads. His determination made sense to me- and I certainly didn’t appreciate many of the opinions on the thread...but this is a diverse group so we’re going to have diverse views.
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Post by faithopelove on Nov 17, 2018 21:43:48 GMT
One more time - they were bullied Jeb did say if anyone was found to be abusive than he would handle it accordingly. Apparently he didn’t feel the thread rose to this level or he would’ve removed members.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 22:12:36 GMT
Well this isn't the sort of place I want to hang around anymore, some of you can't see the obvious and you're minimising bullying, which is abuse, which is possibly why you're still thinking it's all alright. I read Jeb's post and he said he didn't have time the read everything. Even the OP of the thread was abusive towards them and didn't listen to them, I saw they were on her side. Not my sort of place here, they were decent people and I want to be around decent people.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 22:17:52 GMT
Well this isn't the sort of place I want to hang around anymore, some of you can't see the obvious and you're minimising bullying, which is abuse, which is possibly why you're still thinking it's all alright. I read Jeb's post and he said he didn't have time the read everything. Even the OP of the thread was abusive towards them and didn't listen to them, I saw they were on her side. Not my sort of place here, they were decent people and I want to be around decent people. Registered and deleted in 2 hours, only to comment on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 22:22:31 GMT
I think maybe afety this last forum...being this shit will happen again. And now das think it's ok to start a thread in the ap forum about how we are all little children that need to be pussy footed around. I'm off too
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 22:29:54 GMT
Don't feel safe, and starting to feel like I'm back in a relationship with my mother again so much aggression. Thanks das and some aps for shaming others enough to make them leave, shame on you bullies, cheering amongst yourselves. I've fought against your soughts for the under dog all my life and will continue to do so. Not sitting on the fence any longer
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Post by sissyk on Nov 18, 2018 0:20:42 GMT
My 2 cents: I have been here only a week but I appreciate the range of perspectives and I'm staying. This forum is a treasure trove of info as I make sense of the FA/DA guy I'm seeing and start to contemplate how my anxiety has stirred the pot. It is the most informative source on attachment styles I have found in my vigorous Googling. People here will disagree, not always tactfully. I think self-editing is a worse outcome in moving the ball of understanding along. In my own first post here, I read responses that made me bristle initially. But a Buddhist-type once told me, when you feel defensive, get soft in the stomach. Let it pass and see if there is a kernel to learn from. In my job, I take rugged feedback and have learned that once I let the urge for self-defense pass, I can grow from much of it. Maybe not instantly, but once it marinates. The work feedback that irks me most usually is the most instructive, even if I don't agree with all so I bring that experience here. I'm not trying to preen as Mother Teresa--just stating my MO for getting the most out of the data provided here--free! The anonymity of a forum allows valuable candor--what I posted I would not share with some friends!--but it also removes the checks and balances of an in-real-life encounter, thus the street-brawling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 1:56:44 GMT
i don't mind leaving, i've gotten to a good place during my time on the boards. not a bad idea to leave it behind and enjoy this next chapter. best to those who remain!
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