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Post by rach02 on Dec 4, 2018 21:14:19 GMT
When were together she expressed several times wanting a king sized bed. When we slept together she would often remind me to stay on my half of the bed. It was a Queen sized bed, so there was plenty of space and she never even used her entire side. Also, she's like 5'4. If I can stay on my side of the bed as 6'3 and be comfortable why does she want a King sized bed?
From what I understand this is a common complaint by avoidants. A friend of mine said her avoidant ex also expressed desires for a King sized bed.
What's up with that? Do you avoidants not like touch, spooning and cuddles?
My ex would often spoon me even though she expressed wanting her space in bed, very strange. She would often wrap herself around me.
We talked again after a month of being apart and she mentioned that if she ever shares her bed with someone then she wants a King sized bed.
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Post by tnr9 on Dec 6, 2018 14:17:25 GMT
There was one night where B complained that he was used to stretching out like a starfish and so he ended up sleeping on my coach rather then sleeping with me (I too have a queen sized bed)..which I thought as odd...but decided that if he needed that...well..ok (but I will confess, it was difficult not to take that personally at the time). I think it comes down to having choice of being close or separate. I have heard many individuals speak of having seperate rooms or even seperate houses.
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Post by 8675309 on Dec 6, 2018 15:14:34 GMT
Im the same way and Im not avoidant, I have a tough time sleeping with others, even a friend. I can toss and turn, I need to stretch, they may toss and turn, snore, etc. Im a light sleeper and now in my night sweats/going the bathroom more often years... LOL.
I will certainly snuggle, spoon, etc, wrap myself around, I love that part but when its actual go to sleep I need my side of the bed. Its nothing personal towards the person, I need sleep and I dont want to wake either with stretching, peeing, sweating, tossing, ect. Im looking out for my partner too. Sure at times i fall a sleep snuggled but do not stay that way, I wake up in a sweat or just roll over in my sleep. And I surely sometimes in the night spoon in and snuggle and will roll back over eventually again, sweating... LOL I like the spoon in and snuggle in the morning when its about time to wake up and we hit the snooze a couple times, a little snug and hanky panky or just some snugs. haha.
My ex sweat, snored, and tossed and turned, I had to go to the couch several times just to sleep. He did not take this personal at all. Id always end up back in bed when it was almost wake up time to snug. What I would of done to have another bed to go to instead of the couch or a giant bed so he can be on his side. Sleeping on the couch is not so great either... If we had another bed and I was still a sleep he would of come in to snug me in the morning.
Best sleep I had dating a guy was one with a California King, we snugged and both moved to our sides and sleep, and same thing, sometimes snug in the night then roll over again. He was a secure.
All that said, I can see this for avoidants for sure but some of it may be like how I am with my space in bed/even separate beds. Not everything is about avoidance.
My avoidant was pretty snugly/reciprocated mine but we only saw each other twice a month. To add: I even needed my space to sleep with him and he had my AP side triggered. I was very tired after a night with him, anxious triggered and poor sleep. My secure side keeping the AP in check was draining me and I didn't even know it until this attachment thing. Its like how anxiety states drain you I suppose, my attachment was fighting with each other.
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Post by goldilocks on Dec 6, 2018 17:20:10 GMT
Not everything is about avoidance. This.
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Post by epicgum on Dec 6, 2018 20:04:16 GMT
Fyi California king is actually taller, but not wider, than a normal king.
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Post by epicgum on Dec 6, 2018 20:06:20 GMT
Not everything is about avoidance. This. I disagree!! Lol, obviously not, but i do actually think in this case it IS about avoidance. At any rate, this is how I am/was as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 21:31:58 GMT
I disagree!! Lol, obviously not, but i do actually think in this case it IS about avoidance. At any rate, this is how I am/was as well. Same here.. It really annoys me when my sleep suffers because someone is taking up so much of my half of the bed (I have bipolar, so a sleep routine to regulate circadian rhythm is incredibly important) I'm not allergic to affection, but if I'm trying to sleep, I need the conditions to be just right in order to actually drop off to sleep, and bed time is meant to be comfortable for you to actually be able to relax into sleep... if your nervous system is all out of whack because of the closeness, I'm not being funny, but it's not fair on yourself to just lay there all tense when it should be a relaxing and winding down routine
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Post by 8675309 on Dec 6, 2018 22:17:02 GMT
Ok whatever king he had! Lol I slept well at his place, while a queen is a good size b d it’s not a king!
And sleep is just as important as food, love, etc. I need my sleep! And so does who I’m with, I don’t want to keep waking them up as I toss, etc either. My night seats now are insane, they wake me Every night and I feel like I can’t breath in a way.
Also not like a person I was sleeping with didnt roll over on me so I could not breath or bash me with their arm rolling over and I jump out of my sleep. My ex did that more than once...These are very real things.
Maybe some avoidants have experienced ex’s that woke them like some of mine over the years. My last ex was the worst and it’s not like he meant it. I hit the couch Many nights during our 5 years together.
most certainly this can be avoidance but if all it takes is a king to feel more comfortable do it and not question it. Work together so you both feel good. The big bed is a small price for my parters happiness without depriving myself of needs.
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Post by stavs on Dec 10, 2018 16:27:33 GMT
My FA GF sleeps in a pillow fort. She keeps a pillow on each side of her. If we're in my bed, a king, its not an issue with the exception of me stealing one of the cuddle pillows in my sleep (only way I can break down her walls!). In her bed, a queen, its kind of a pain in the ass. She's already mentioned when we go on our cruise she may sleep on the pullout since the bed is a queen....not something I'm happy about.
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Post by tnr9 on Dec 10, 2018 17:15:30 GMT
My FA GF sleeps in a pillow fort. She keeps a pillow on each side of her. If we're in my bed, a king, its not an issue with the exception of me stealing one of the cuddle pillows in my sleep (only way I can break down her walls!). In her bed, a queen, its kind of a pain in the ass. She's already mentioned when we go on our cruise she may sleep on the pullout since the bed is a queen....not something I'm happy about. Understanding that this is about her space needs and not about sleeping away from you...can you give her this? Meaning...whether you like it or not....can you see it from her side of things?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 19:35:08 GMT
It's silly, someone sleeping habits have nothing to do with their attachment style.
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Post by stavs on Dec 10, 2018 19:36:41 GMT
My FA GF sleeps in a pillow fort. She keeps a pillow on each side of her. If we're in my bed, a king, its not an issue with the exception of me stealing one of the cuddle pillows in my sleep (only way I can break down her walls!). In her bed, a queen, its kind of a pain in the ass. She's already mentioned when we go on our cruise she may sleep on the pullout since the bed is a queen....not something I'm happy about. Understanding that this is about her space needs and not about sleeping away from you...can you give her this? Meaning...whether you like it or not....can you see it from her side of things? I totally get that, and honestly we've made it work before. I've fallen off her bed multiple times in the middle of the night to give her the space. I've offered to sleep in the other bedroom as well. When it's cruise time, we'll both be completely trashed at night, so it wont matter. LOL. My solution to the bed thing is we move in together and then we have a king size. Problem solved!
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