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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 13:30:40 GMT
so ya know, mrob , i won't be anywhere on this board other than the shoutout thread to mary. to those who have sent kind messages, thank you! 🌸 if i had a way to receive future contact with her without having an account here that would be ideal. perhaps i will just ask goldilocks to pass on my private email to mary if she pops up, it seems the best way to go! eliminating my presence here will likely ease this drama, and i'm happy to do that. 
I think if you're really Juniper, you shouldn't feel pressured to leave or to stay. If people engage in drama, they're choosing to engage in drama, and it's not someone else's fault (maybe an exception for deliberate trolling, which I haven't seen you do). You should feel welcome to stay if you'd like.
Thank you, i agree that no poster should feel pressured to leave and i myself don't.... but i wouldn't continue here without a moderator to delete the obvious trolling. The first three or so posts on this thread could have been corrected and drama=done. i think this forum would be a great resource but Jeb doesn't have time or (i'm sure) the desire to moderate, it's just a side to the book. there are a few participants i would enjoy maintaining a connection through our progress with, but even if i stay in the support forum there's gonna be a troll or two. i came back to try to connect with DA mary because she embarked on a new relationship the same time i did and i would love to support her no matter how that went, i had a good connection with her. tell her if you see her lol! anyway, i've got that set up with goldi so i really don't mind leaving and by my absence making others comfortable. it was great for a lot of us while it lasted but all things change. thanks to everyone who bounced stuff around with me in another time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 17:51:53 GMT
Notice that she posted about DA's hating on Nat Lue (I agree with Juniper on this one) RIGHT after Juniper came back to post in the support forum. Which is also why I was 100 % sure the second post was from juniper. It appeared here right after her posts in the DA support forum. There hadn't been any trolling before that. The post had the same style she uses: no paragraphs, separate sentences. She had a reason to hold grudge towards Lizzie. (I'm not even completely on Lizzie's side. I don't like Nat Lue. She's in the other extreme.) It's the double standards that bother me most. My problem with juniper has not been her DAness but the fact that she has been claiming to operate from a place of understanding, healing and empathy, "earned secure", but her empathy has been very selective. She has often left the impression that if you disagree with her, that's your problem. She may not have done this deliberately but it can be very harmful for some people who have come here already blaming themselves too much. They have seen that juniper is liked and respected here and may have thought she must know these things better. She is also not questioned by the active members. She has power, whether she recognizes it or not. That's what lead some people to feel manipulated and unsafe: they saw a powerful figure, "earned secure telling the truth", surrounded by unquestioning cheerleaders. These social influence / power things are hard to point out and easily make people sound mean, persecutive or paranoid for saying it aloud. Not everyone even sees it. But it is there and it is harmful. Not one person here knows the truth or should be allowed to have a more powerful voice. Then again, I completely believe DAs face here problems other styles are not aware of. This is just one thing in the whole picture. Yes, the biggest problem is lack of moderation. People can't know what they can or should expect here. There are no rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:05:09 GMT
zercher , i understand where you are coming from but in am not going to cop to any dark plan. i stayed repeatedly to exhaustion here that i shared my PERSPECTIVE. Someone wants a DA perspective, i have one. if they don't like it, it doesn't change just because they don't like it. my empathy isn't conditional, and neither is my perspective when it comes to how i view the situations i commented on. that means, i may agree or share a view on some points and not on others. i may understand something in a very different way and share that without altering my perspective. that is all it is. opinion. just because i may have a connection with someone here based on mutual understanding doesn't mean that i won't disagree and plainly say so. all posters here have exercised their freedom to say it like they see it. i could call out by name all the posters that i believe have posted pure manipulative or lashing out bullshit but i just address it in the thread openly and move on. i address it with the poster and then we are all free to disagree. ITS ALL OPINIONS. there are few da posters here and i was very active, and that stands out. anyway, the simple answer here is to vacate, and i am happy to do so. talk all you need to about me after i go, i really hope it can be resolved but am puzzled why it would continue if i am willing to just leave my "power" behind. so it's getting silly, i know, for me to keep responding when i am mentioned. please just enjoy the boards and move on to the next phase of the forum whatever that is, it's easily settled. i mean that, it's easy, i don't know how to say it to sound sincere but i am happy to not impinge, my time here is done and i'm thankful for the segment of the journey. carry on and best wishes to all who share sincere intentions.
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Post by Jeb Kinnison on Jan 31, 2019 5:19:36 GMT
Your moderator has been on jury duty a lot and missed this going by. Sorry all, but it appears the troublemaker deleted themselves anyway. I'll look further to see if I can figure anything out.... Aha. This board had permissions set wrong to allow guests to post and comment. It's better if people can't troll by dropping in with unconfirmed identities. Usually the result is spam.. -- jeb There isn’t a moderator, hence me asking for calm. This conflict ripped this board apart before Christmas, with many not coming back. I respectfully ask, in my non role of anything, to please not continue. All parties. Please. Jeb would be the one... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 18:31:34 GMT
Thank you Jeb!
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