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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:15:48 GMT
@janedoe , Being a cerebral, it may be that you need to be "chaste" intellectually lol! But seriously- what i meant is perhaps de-emphasize intellectual conversations the way that someone too sex-driven would need to de-emphasize kissing and petting, if they want to get to know someone's other facets and not be blinded by sex. maybe you could observe the intellect, appreciate it, but not engage it so heavily while getting to know. Just like I would need to appreciate the sexuality and alpha appeal of a man but not sit on his lap haha! Do you see what I mean though? Don't over engage what brings you to your knees and makes you want more. Let it be a pleasing observation and direct your attention to other values and qualities. Like abstaining from premature sex (never have ever done that once with someone who made it past my early exit. I'm not speaking from experience but from an Ideal that I would have in place if I had to do it again, now that I know myself better. You're absolutely right. I would never have thought of it this way, but it's a sapiosexual thing so you are absolutely sexually attracted to intellectual conversation and playfulness. Geez, for me, it's a form of flirting and I am attracted to it, but maybe for some, it's akin to sexting. This has been all so helpful and enlightening for me. It hits my patterns/issues at the core. Good! Put some granny panties on your brain and do orher stuff. Safe sapiosexuality.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:20:25 GMT
@janedoe I feel you! so I've been using what @inmourning said. in fact, i go even further, i act kind of stupid and then observe just how smart they are or think they are lol. then i decide where to go from there. intelligence is intelligence, it's hard to hide, so not too much of a need to engaging directly in spoken sparring. it WILL occur in cerebrals, even when it comes to discussing what brand of clothing to buy. lol.
softbois bore me. never been into them!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:20:54 GMT
Good! Put some granny panties on your brain and do orher stuff. Safe sapiosexuality. Adding this to my "love plan"..... And leave the ham goggles at home. lol!!!
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Post by alexandra on Dec 13, 2019 0:23:16 GMT
@janedoe, Being a cerebral, it may be that you need to be "chaste" intellectually lol! But seriously- what i meant is perhaps de-emphasize intellectual conversations the way that someone too sex-driven would need to de-emphasize kissing and petting, if they want to get to know someone's other facets and not be blinded by sex. Interesting, because that's exactly what I said in my example a couple posts back though I didn't do it for this same reason. But in doing so, I immediately got a revealing answer that indicated he was kind of a jerk. I also was thinking more about it being a more basic unavailable attracting unavailable thing, and the first time I heard, "I like the way you think," it WAS because I was making a joke to take the pressure off our upcoming first date, providing a funny but easy escape route if it wasn't going well, to someone who I didn't know yet was avoidant! We had a great date so no one used the exit option and he did enjoy intelligence, but yeah, he liked a one foot in one foot out joke I made. I really like intellectual conversation and find it energizing most of the time, personally. And that it can be a nerdy flirtation. But I can see it being draining, especially for introverts, and I do try to back off if I notice someone isn't into it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:23:43 GMT
@janedoe I feel you! so I've been using what @inmourning said. in fact, i go even further, i act kind of stupid and then observe just how smart they are or think they are lol. then i decide where to go from there. intelligence is intelligence, it's hard to hide, so not too much of a need to engaging directly in spoken sparring. it WILL occur in cerebrals, even when it comes to discussing what brand of clothing to buy. lol. softbois bore me. never been into them! Softbois hate me but it's because I hate them and it's impossible to not repel each other. I'm not happy about being repelled or repellant but that's what happens, I didn't know there was a name for the type but even the name makes me cringe. I'm not saying I'm right or fair, I'm just saying, nope.
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Post by alexandra on Dec 13, 2019 0:24:59 GMT
softbois bore me. never been into them! I'm into art and culture too, so when they were teaching me new things I wasn't familiar with, before I realized there was no substance behind it, I was into it if it also came with sexual chemistry. Smh at myself!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:25:15 GMT
@janedoe , Being a cerebral, it may be that you need to be "chaste" intellectually lol! But seriously- what i meant is perhaps de-emphasize intellectual conversations the way that someone too sex-driven would need to de-emphasize kissing and petting, if they want to get to know someone's other facets and not be blinded by sex. Interesting, because that's exactly what I said in my example a couple posts back though I didn't do it for this same reason. But in doing so, I immediately got a revealing answer that indicated he was kind of a jerk. I also was thinking more about it being a more basic unavailable attracting unavailable thing, and the first time I heard, "I like the way you think," it WAS because I was making a joke to take the pressure off our upcoming first date, providing a funny but easy escape route if it wasn't going well, to someone who I didn't know yet was avoidant! We had a great date so no one used the exit option and he did enjoy intelligence, but yeah, he liked a one foot in one foot out joke I made. I really like intellectual conversation and find it energizing most of the time, personally. And that it can be a nerdy flirtation. But I can see it being draining, especially for introverts, and I do try to back off if I notice someone isn't into it. alexandra, sorry, I missed that. I'm on my phone and the screen is tiny and I having a hard time keeping up!
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Post by alexandra on Dec 13, 2019 0:27:03 GMT
alexandra, sorry, I missed that. I'm on my phone and the screen is tiny and I having a hard time keeping up! That's okay, it made me feel validated LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:30:28 GMT
alexandra , sorry, I missed that. I'm on my phone and the screen is tiny and I having a hard time keeping up! That's okay, it made me feel validated LOL. Good! See, we can all be smart together hahah! Who needs softbois or mind games. 😂😆
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:32:22 GMT
softbois bore me. never been into them! I'm into art and culture too, so when they were teaching me new things I wasn't familiar with, before I realized there was no substance behind it, I was into it if it also came with sexual chemistry. Smh at myself! Leave all that to the museum guide, better yet- look for men who want to learn, not teach. That would probably eliminate a lot of egomaniacs right?
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Post by serenity on Dec 13, 2019 0:35:55 GMT
I’ve found this one of the most confronting threads here. Surely there is some leeway in the getting to know you process? I don’t do stupid women. They’re frustrating, and they’re not interested in me, anyway. I love different perspectives, it is fascinating. My constant bear is that they’ll get bored with me. What happens when they find out I’m just a conservative bloke who likes a quiet life. I don’t party, don’t even go on scary rides at the amusement park! And I don’t know the classics, so they generally run rings around me. Inadequate, perhaps, but that’s something I’ve had to accept. Men who love bright women make the world go round IMO. <3 I admit I've seen a lot of the behavior mentioned on this thread as well. But I also think of threads like this as a kind of hypervigilence. When people get hurt, we want to know how not to feel that bad again. Its normal to feel hypervigilent after a trauma or significant wound, but it can also put up walls that don't need to be there. I feel personally, the best way for me to know a person is to truly get to know them over time. Some of the men I admire and trust the most personally took a long time to know. It was when they were faced with difficult decisions and stress that their character and capacity for loyalty was revealed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:42:53 GMT
Softbois hate me but it's because I hate them and it's impossible to not repel each other. I'm not happy about being repelled or repellant but that's what happens, I didn't know there was a name for the type but even the name makes me cringe. I'm not saying I'm right or fair, I'm just saying, nope. Want to chaperone my dates?? OMG YES. That would just be so satisfying. I'll take care of the softboi. Recently my teenage son said that if I was his opponent at (a hobby we share but don't engage in together) he would be "dismayed". 😂 Please let me dismay the softboi looking for game. 😆
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:48:14 GMT
Ok, so based off of all of this, I want to ask...HOW do I flirt? Or what is it about me that should be attractive to a man? I do not want a dude to be attracted to me just for how I look. I despise that. I've easily avoided typical players because I am turned off and don't give a chance to any guy whose first compliment has to do with my appearance. Hiding your intellect...wouldn't that be the equivalent of wearing sweats, putting your hair up, and not wearing makeup on a date? I mean, is there a middle ground of a nice pretty dress that isn't revealing? Is there a way you show some intellect without giving away the cow (that's the old school saying, right??)? I think it is totally possible. I am a blunt person, and I wear jeans that look good. Doesn't mean I'm going to play grabass in them. I am not available for dating but get too much attention, and I just straight up say that I'm not down. I don't go into it, when a man comes on to me. Now for you, it seems that you could straight up say, "I'm a cerebral type, and brains turn me on. I love intellectual conversations so much that I'm not going to focus on that with you. I want to get to know you, and you to get to know me. We can surely appreciate each other's intelligence, but I'm looking for and offer other important values. I have a lot of facets- what shall we explore together? Maybe someday if it's right I'll let you see my IQ score (come hither eyes) but you have to earn that, buddy. 😈
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 0:52:33 GMT
Ok, so based off of all of this, I want to ask...HOW do I flirt? Or what is it about me that should be attractive to a man? I do not want a dude to be attracted to me just for how I look. I despise that. I've easily avoided typical players because I am turned off and don't give a chance to any guy whose first compliment has to do with my appearance. Hiding your intellect...wouldn't that be the equivalent of wearing sweats, putting your hair up, and not wearing makeup on a date? I mean, is there a middle ground of a nice pretty dress that isn't revealing? Is there a way you show some intellect without giving away the cow (that's the old school saying, right??)? I don't think that it is hiding your intellect. like I said, if you are truly intellectual, it will show in normal conversations without you engaging directly in it. The kind of topics you pick and how you respond to other topics even the boring ones WILL show it. how you use your words and logic will also shine through. it's like if you're beautiful, you don't need to wear makeup and sexy clothes to show that you are. you can be covered in mud and it'll still come through somehow. i observe first and foremost how smart they are - that comes through in the way they say things and in the decisions they make. the truly smart ones also test you for it, and that's when you "flirt". show that you are smart without giving them all the goods with intense intellectual conversations. the way I do it is when they "challenge" me, and I take their point (agree with content) and then say something like oh, does that assume x and y then (challenge assumption) and then wait for a response (see how much metacognition and abstraction they have). those who engage in pointless pontificating that sound smart are usually not very smart beyond a certain point of being knowledgeable of key "intellectual" points e.g., standard pop culture references and art stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 1:00:42 GMT
Yeah, I have this happen a lot. lol. It's obvious. Usually a guy will pull out his thesaurus.... Shoot, is that dirty?? I didn't mean it that way! lol. pulling out the thesaurus and using jargon pointlessly with me is the equivalent to sending a dick pic that wasn't asked for!!
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