Did the FA get physically ill a lot? | Jeb Kinnison Attachment Type Forum

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Did the FA get physically ill a lot? Feb 12, 2020 21:41:54 GMT nyc718 likes this

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Post by kittygirl on Feb 12, 2020 21:41:54 GMT

Feb 12, 2020 19:30:55 GMT dhali said:

Whatevs. You can believe anything you want. But I love the scientific studies in here about illnesses associated with attachment type.

This is what falls under anecdotal at best, amongst a highly biased sample set, who also all share the common attribute of searching for answers to explain things they find unexplainable. Yes, we should gather this data and the reference it later when newcomers come by desperately seeking answers on either how they are at fault, or not at fault for a seemingly perfect relationship exploding.

“OMG, yes! He totally got sick In The first 2 months! So textbook”

Aliens to poke at, or is it that you’re actually concerned for their well being?

It's strange to me that you equated us exploring a potential link of illness and attachment (and really attachment here is a proxy for trauma) as a way of saying "we aren't at fault for the relationships imploding. My perfect relationship went to shit because my FA partner also has a lot of chronic illnesses" I didn't take anything said that way at all. As a matter of fact, at least in my case I wasn't even talking about a partner at all! I have zero investment in his illness whatsoever. Was merely repeating that he told me (and again this is a quote) "I was dreading spending time with her so much that I think I made myself sick". Should I ignore what he tells me??

In fact, there are many scientific studies that demonstrate this link. You seem more keen on accusing us of only presenting "anecdotal" evidence as opposed to looking any up, so I will link some here (I don't really have time to find all the articles for you, so please feel free to take up where i leave off). I can't seem to find a way of uploading a PDF so the best I can do is link, sometimes only the abstracts. I will also sum up the major findings for you.

This passage is taken directly from a paper I will link below: " has been proposed that attachment styles characterized by avoidance of emotional expression(e.g., insecure-avoidant, dismissing and fearful styles, or Type A attachment strategy) may predispose individuals to chronic pain conditions": www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5184796/pdf/children-03-00021.pdf

Significantly more hypochondriacs in people with a history of childhood trauma:
psycnet.apa.org/record/1994-30263-001

Childhood trauma leads to chronic inflammation as adults:
www.nature.com/articles/npp2016198

Childhood trauma linked to immunosupression as an adult leading to higher incidence of health issues as adults:
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159112001821

If your complaint is actually that you feel like we are specifically picking on FA attachment and not the other attachments styles (which is how you sort of seemed to deviate towards the end of this thread) than that is a different complaint entirely. I would argue that I presented at least one specific paper that addressed this, but more to the point, this thread was in the FA section. Had it been in the AP section maybe we would see similar patterns there as well. I have no idea. I would actually be interested if the APs who read this (of which there many) experience a higher incidence of illness. I'm not in any way saying it couldn't be the case

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Did the FA get physically ill a lot? Feb 12, 2020 21:43:27 GMT Helsbells and nyc718 like this

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Post by kittygirl on Feb 12, 2020 21:43:27 GMT

Feb 12, 2020 21:16:36 GMT dhali said:

I also guess you’ve missed the multiple posts of me being vulnerable on here sharing my experiences, but so be it

Science isn’t big in these parts.

I have a PhD in biology and am a science professor at a huge university. Please read the articles I linked.

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Did the FA get physically ill a lot? Feb 12, 2020 22:07:43 GMT via mobile

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Post by Helsbells on Feb 12, 2020 22:07:43 GMT

Feb 12, 2020 21:43:27 GMT kittygirl said:

Feb 12, 2020 21:16:36 GMT dhali said:

I also guess you’ve missed the multiple posts of me being vulnerable on here sharing my experiences, but so be it

Science isn’t big in these parts.

I have a PhD in biology and am a science professor at a huge university. Please read the articles I linked.

kittygirl really appreciate you posting links, thank you x

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Did the FA get physically ill a lot? Feb 13, 2020 2:44:24 GMT nyc718 and Dualcitizen like this

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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 2:44:24 GMT

I self identify as some shade of AP in romantic relationships.

I've been a sickly child - flus, colds, asthma, eczema, massive acne, physical pain, constipation, a lack of intestinal movement/absorption. I associate all this with poor autoimmune system and inflammatory responses, primarily to stress and emotional suppression. I remember going to yin yoga for the first time, and left with so much felt anger. after a lot of work, both healing and physical therapy, alot has improved, but I still have eczema, pain, and a general weaker constitution than others.

in my limited anecdotal observations of avoidants in my life (not just the ones i dated, also friends), they seem to be healthy(-ier? at least than me) but sleep poorly/little.

also, agree with kittygirl, that it is not just illness and attachment. It is that trauma causes attachment injuries, and trauma causes poor physical health, and therefore, those with attachment injuries, because of trauma PLUS an ongoing terrible relationship with stress and emotion, are more likely to experience poor health. it's not a stretch by any means. APs probably, with a high strung nervous system, are more likely to exhibit some physical form of chronic wear and tear.