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Post by bedlam71 on May 14, 2018 18:37:54 GMT
...if there is nothing to hide?
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Post by bryan on May 14, 2018 20:27:40 GMT
Because it creates the distance that avoidant people feel they need. It just feels more comfortable and makes them less exposed to uncomfortable feelings like anxiety, feeling trapped, losing control, having the feeling that the other person is going to discover the real you (which he/she thinks isn't good enough)
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Post by ocarina on May 14, 2018 20:28:15 GMT
Most behaviours have an underlying motivation - being secretive might give a person a sense of control, of being in charge of their own life by choosing whether or not to share information. Also as a form of self preservation - retaining autonomy when either another was trying to push boundaries or ones own boundaries were somewhat loose.
Some personality types don't feel the need to share - and perhaps this could be interpreted as being secretive.
I tend to find myself being secretive when I am threatened - when I doubt another person's motive, am mistrustful, am attempting to retain a certain distance in relationships.
In the above cases their really is nothing to hide - it's a coping mechanism, a form of control, of self protection.
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Post by DearLover on May 14, 2018 21:02:58 GMT
I sensed that for my DA ex BF is was a control thing...for no good 'reason' since in our relationship I wasn't controlling at all so I would never interfere in his business And I was zero judgemntal. I just want better communication so I could actually plan my days when he wouldn't be available. I should always be making plans for myself ahead of him making plans with me just in case, but it didn't feel like a proper relationship...but I guess that is what a relationship with an DA is supposed to be... I guess he also knew that sharing, even sharing little casual things, creates more intimacy.
I am the opposite...I tend to overshare early on...working on it, better to find balance.
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Post by flic on May 15, 2018 0:31:32 GMT
Sometimes it feels (I say feels, because feelings are not facts ) that there is a fine line between secrecy and lies? Or at the very least, it's easy to become mistrustful of someone when you know they are holding things back from you. Maybe it's the mass medias portrayal of what a romantic relationship is supposed to look like that is to blame. Reading the accounts on here, I can see how for some people, sharing too much too soon, or at all, could be very scary. Again, potentially it highlights the mismatch between types if someone needs a level of emotional intimacy which includes feeling like you really "know" the person, and the other person simply can't offer that.
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Post by mrob on May 15, 2018 0:33:29 GMT
Because it’s my life, and my business how much I reveal.
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Post by bedlam71 on May 15, 2018 15:20:49 GMT
Because it’s my life, and my business how much I reveal. Yes it is and that changes when you get into a relationship.
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Post by bedlam71 on May 15, 2018 15:28:53 GMT
Sometimes it feels (I say feels, because feelings are not facts ) that there is a fine line between secrecy and lies? Or at the very least, it's easy to become mistrustful of someone when you know they are holding things back from you. Maybe it's the mass medias portrayal of what a romantic relationship is supposed to look like that is to blame. Reading the accounts on here, I can see how for some people, sharing too much too soon, or at all, could be very scary. Again, potentially it highlights the mismatch between types if someone needs a level of emotional intimacy which includes feeling like you really "know" the person, and the other person simply can't offer that. I agree and there has to be a middle path. A relationship is not going to work if it's always in extremes.
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Post by mrob on May 15, 2018 16:28:53 GMT
Not all relationships are the same, certainly not at the outset. Everyone knows everything about my mother. I don’t do that. My private stuff is private. Within a relationship, perhaps the question is where is the line between privacy and secrecy?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:41:17 GMT
I care about my privacy, people rarely keep things for themselves- I don't want them to gossip or simply, I don't want strangers to know details about my life. It takes years to build trust and some people are not to be trusted, even if you're close.
That being said, if you're not used to sharing(avoidants obviously aren't) you simply feel uncomfortable doing so and it feels intrusive.
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Post by bedlam71 on May 15, 2018 18:06:40 GMT
Then what's the purpose of being in a relationship if you aren't going to open up? Are partners there for utilitarian purposes? Is it because avoidants need to feel a sense of control and independence, so they reel partners in long enough to get someone to chase them in order to get a sense of control and a self-esteem boost?
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Post by goldilocks on May 15, 2018 18:48:20 GMT
I deflect questions out of habit or awkwardness.
I sometimes feel stressed when people ask me questions I don't want to answer (yet) Then I fall into old habits and give evasive answers and it actually gets more awkward sometimes. Other times it is more like a funny and flirty deflection and then it work for me because people laugh and I feel more relaxed and excited instead of tense.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 19:18:13 GMT
Then what's the purpose of being in a relationship if you aren't going to open up? Are partners there for utilitarian purposes? Is it because avoidants need to feel a sense of control and independence, so they reel partners in long enough to get someone to chase them in order to get a sense of control and a self-esteem boost? since I'm "better off" alone, no, I'd not enter a relationship for utilitarian purposes. You're asking about being emotionally unavailable, not about being secretive then. I, as well as my DA, have opened up and shared with very personal things when we feel it's safe to do so(it's easy to get triggered). On the other hand we don't share every little detail from our lives. I don't think it's necessary to have an emotionally intimate relationship. I just don't like to feel someone's breath on my back. If you want DA, or anyone, to open up, you have to create a safe space first, rather than just have expectations.
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Post by yasmin on May 15, 2018 19:22:13 GMT
Honestly...in day to day life I'm just not in the habit of voicing my thoughts or feelings.
I'm not secretive with people who ask me direct questions hut being a little isolated is just a habit.
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Post by bedlam71 on May 15, 2018 19:33:43 GMT
Then what's the purpose of being in a relationship if you aren't going to open up? Are partners there for utilitarian purposes? Is it because avoidants need to feel a sense of control and independence, so they reel partners in long enough to get someone to chase them in order to get a sense of control and a self-esteem boost? since I'm "better off" alone, no, I'd not enter a relationship for utilitarian purposes. You're asking about being emotionally unavailable, not about being secretive then. I, as well as my DA, have opened up and shared with very personal things when we feel it's safe to do so(it's easy to get triggered). On the other hand we don't share every little detail from our lives. I don't think it's necessary to have an emotionally intimate relationship. I just don't like to feel someone's breath on my back. If you want DA, or anyone, to be more open with you, you have to create a safe space first, rather than just have expectations. That makes sense.
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