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Post by sunflower on Mar 19, 2019 21:58:08 GMT
I ended a relationship with what I believe was Fearful-Avoidant.
He created competition (that didn’t exist), he pretended to date other women, he relied on me for support emotionally and financially. I was loved bombed in a long distance relationship but the minute we slept together the avoidance and distancing began.
He still wants to text me and a few days ago he professed his love for his former high school girlfriend, I didn’t respond then he reconfirmed two days later. I told him our relationship is irreparably damaged and he stated the following:
I don’t know what it’s going to take for a woman to capture my heart. Maybe the barrier is too thick/strong for anyone to penetrate right now. I don’t know the answer, I don’t. I wish I did. But I will know when it happens. It may be someone I know now but don’t ‘know’ it. May be a stranger. Who knows but one day it will happen and it will be forever.
I was so hurt, this felt so unecessary. I am a person who is extremely kind. I don’t understand why he’s continuing to text me things or if he even comprehends my pain and suffering. I told him I could not discuss and goodnight.
What does this man want from me? How can I do the right thing? It wasn’t my choice, I love him very much but the relationship is irrevocably damaged. I ask that his brother intervene and ask him to stop hurting me but I’m no certain what to do and in loving him, I want whatever course of action is in his best interest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 12:06:22 GMT
What an absolute loser. So sorry your going thru such pain. I think you have had a lucky escape.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 12:08:50 GMT
In HIS best interest 😵 Not judging because I think just like you and have always cared about the person who's hurting me more than I care about myself. Being ap sucks.
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Post by unluckyinlove on Mar 20, 2019 13:15:18 GMT
I don’t know what it’s going to take for a woman to capture my heart. Maybe the barrier is too thick/strong for anyone to penetrate right now. I remember my ex FA saying something similar to this when we first started dating. He said he “didn’t know how much he could give me right now” and that he “might not ever be able to get there....with me or anyone else”. That was before he ghosted on me for 4 months. He still maintained that position for a good year after we reconnected and started a relationship. I hung in there because I thought he was just dealing with pain from his ex wife cheating on him. I never realized it was deeper. In my personal experience, I know my ex loved me. Those words were his fear talking. It was his way of shielding his heart from the inevitable doom that he knew was coming because he is not capable of sustaining a relationship. Period. With me as well as a long list of family, friends, employers, etc. he runs from all of them. I know my ex loved me. I know he still does. So don’t take these things that your FA is saying personally. This is a reflection of his own internal confusion and insecurity. It has nothing to do with how much you do for him on the outside of his internal conflict. It’s taken me awhile to understand that concept. It didn’t matter what I did, this was his battle. He loved me but he was never going to be the partner that I needed and honestly, he had wounds so deep that I’m not sure I (or anyone else) can really be the partner he needed. I think you are doing the right thing to pull away. I would have preferred your reasons to have been for YOU and not HIM though. You can still care about him and his well being but you have to do what’s best for YOU....who else will?
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Post by alexandra on Mar 20, 2019 15:56:37 GMT
sunflower When AP partners date other insecure partners, and those partners don't own their issues, the AP person often accepts and internalizes being dumped on and blamed. This guy sounds more than just FA, as he's triangulating and manipulative. You can be FA and messy but not act like such an a-hole. It's not a matter of what kind of super woman will it take to "change" him, penetrate that barrier, win him over. That's simply him deflecting blame and showing how bad of a partner he is. He's not taking full responsibility for his part in why he feels that way. He has to heal and do self-work to get to a place where he can be open to falling in love and reciprocating it as a good, steady partner who shows up consistently. That's not on you. That's not your failing. He doesn't want to do the work and wants external help regulating since he can't do it himself, and he contacts you for some form of attention and validation. It is on you to ignore him and instead explore your AP trauma, figure out why you'd accept this less than treatment and stick around for it. I don't even know him, and I'm offended by his words, so I can only imagine how you feel. You may not believe this now, as you're in pain and I'm sorry for that, but eventually you'll see that you're much better off without him. This guy sounds like a jerk and dead weight to you, so it's good on you for ending things and doing right for yourself. Take solace in your strength in letting him go!
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Post by number9 on Mar 20, 2019 15:56:47 GMT
I'm sorry you had to hear such hurtful comments. Creating competition is so cruel and unnecessary. I hope you can find the power to stay away from him. It will only hurt more, the longer you subject yourself to this situation.
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Post by sunflower on Mar 20, 2019 16:28:43 GMT
I’m crying at the support and I am so grateful for these responses. I thought something was wrong with me - that I was too sensitive. I can assure you the story is much worse, this was just the ending. I was too embarrassed to admit the truth to anyone.
I believe he is Fearful Avoidant, I did consider other things like Narcissism due to his cruelty and callousness but he’s insecure and so damaged, he is enmeshing his young daughter (single dad) but he is unable to see the dynamic and thinks he’s a loving father which he is, but it’s beyond that and he uses the child to fulfill his emotional needs.
I was considering a response but after reading the kindness and honest answers extended here I feel less guilty, he’s drained me emotionally and financially and never bought me so much as cup of coffee. I thought his brother might help, I requested therapy, but I can’t do anymore. No one would have stayed as long as I did. I’ve never been love bombed and it was so overwhelming to hear someone be so kind to me.
It’s just truly astounding to me that this man would invent nonexistent girlfriends, reply from his phone pretending to be another woman who was interested in him, profess his love for his exgf (I’m more attractive and she’s married with 3 children) and I loved him and then text me this.
Thank you for this feedback, truly to each of you. I feel like I’ll continue to have the strength to walk away. My appreciation to all of you for input. You have truly made a difference in my life with your responses. I am so very grateful!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 17:17:58 GMT
How long were you together?
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Post by sunflower on Mar 20, 2019 19:00:54 GMT
I had a crush on him for two years but I’m fairly ☺️ shy so we were together for one year but I use that term loosely. Feb to August was great and then it went downhill the more intimate things became. He literally turned into someone else - the loving texts, the intimate conversations all stopped.
We progressively became more friends, I got more attention from his brother than I did him but the final straw was not only inventing relationships but the profession of love for the exgf, I can never live with that and he refused therapy.
I think his not contacting me on Valentine’s Day (also our one year) and not asking me to his son’s birthday dinner after I financed his spring break was just more than my heart could bear. The son is just a kid, he is not at fault. At this point, I’m more distraught over the loss of his family.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 20:33:07 GMT
This paints a bleak picture. He is a really lovely person who shows a lot of respect and love and care for me. But is unaware of his attachment issues and refuses to address any issues. Thinks is all rubbish when I tried to talk about what I've found out since we've been together. I love him but know in my heart that there is no real future for us and that breaks my heart as there is so much good about the relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 20:35:44 GMT
Everything I have read tells that unless both parties are willing to do the leg work and address attachment issues, the relationship is basically doomed. Just to sad to accept.
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Post by sunflower on Mar 20, 2019 21:06:28 GMT
Everything I have read tells that unless both parties are willing to do the leg work and address attachment issues, the relationship is basically doomed. Just to sad to accept. I would like to reassure you that we are both in our late forties and early fifties. This is hard because I think “Why not me?” But unfortunately for me, I’ll never know. The fact that he invented fake relationships and announced his undying love (for an old gf?) sealed the deal for me. Something you said struck me, I’m new on the forum so I’m not so sure how to quote but you wrote that he had intimate relationships with other women who he was friends with on social media. In my case, I wouldn’t be so sure of this because I find this to be a distancing or a deactivation strategy. My former bf pretended he had relationships, dates and interactions either to make me jealous and exert power over me (I became extremely distraught before I verified his lying) or because he wanted to keep me at bay. This behavior is so alarming to me it borders on pathological in my mind. I know I am an Anxious Attached, I have had a lot of therapy but I’m also by nature very kind hearted and generous so it’s hard to draw boundaries. While the romantic relationship is destroyed, I still want the best for this man and yes, it’s too late now. He did me a huge favor, I should consider myself lucky. As a poster above stated, you can be a FA without being an a*hole and I feel his behavior crossed the line. Even his brother told me that he didn’t love me and this did help enable me to end the relationship. It’s easy to advise someone to leave but I know it’s hard to do. It’s like an addiction and I hit rock bottom. I feel his treatment of me constitutes emotional abuse as I cannot imagine hurting him this way. Additionally, we devolved into nonexistent sexual relationship as well; I feel it was too intimate for him. He did a great job of hiding his issues before we slept together. We used to talk all night on the phone and eventually he couldn’t answer the phone and made me feel as if I was intrusive. I even ceased to initiate text. I feel relieved but I definitely still loved him. I went through everything. Is he gay? Was he molested? Did his divorce cause this? Health issues? He claims he had a perfect childhood but he may have been enmeshed. I wish I knew.
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Post by sunflower on Mar 20, 2019 23:01:02 GMT
sunflower When AP partners date other insecure partners, and those partners don't own their issues, the AP person often accepts and internalizes being dumped on and blamed. This guy sounds more than just FA, as he's triangulating and manipulative. You can be FA and messy but not act like such an a-hole. It's not a matter of what kind of super woman will it take to "change" him, penetrate that barrier, win him over. That's simply him deflecting blame and showing how bad of a partner he is. He's not taking full responsibility for his part in why he feels that way. He has to heal and do self-work to get to a place where he can be open to falling in love and reciprocating it as a good, steady partner who shows up consistently. That's not on you. That's not your failing. He doesn't want to do the work and wants external help regulating since he can't do it himself, and he contacts you for some form of attention and validation. It is on you to ignore him and instead explore your AP trauma, figure out why you'd accept this less than treatment and stick around for it. I don't even know him, and I'm offended by his words, so I can only imagine how you feel. You may not believe this now, as you're in pain and I'm sorry for that, but eventually you'll see that you're much better off without him. This guy sounds like a jerk and dead weight to you, so it's good on you for ending things and doing right for yourself. Take solace in your strength in letting him go! This was an incredibly powerful response, it just really resonates with me! Thank you!
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