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Post by kristyrose on Jul 5, 2018 17:30:35 GMT
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone has experienced this with their FA/DA style partner or ex:
I've noticed in the past few weeks my ex is back to distancing himself from me in both small and big ways. One way is he will agree to hang out but say 'no sleepover" then stay until 2am. Or he will keep a physical distance when we are together and seem annoyed, but then want to continue to hang out longer and ultimately will want to put his arm around me. This comes in waves as there are times this behavior doesn't exist so I've learned to roll with it while I date others and just try not to take it personally.
One thing though, he is INSISTENT on either going with me to doctor appointments or doing things around my house, even upgrading my internet, only to act put out when he does it. It's confusing but also seems like he wants me to need him. He will spend an entire day texting me about ordering things for my place and helping me install things that I didn't ask for or do not need.
I was thinking that perhaps he may do these things out of guilt for the distancing behavior, perhaps all subconscious but of course I really don't know...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 19:36:42 GMT
it seems like over the months, that i have read here, many people have told you that this guy seems like an extreme case of something or other- narcissist or PD or something. But you always come back to trying to understand him as FA/DA. again; this seems like odd behavior that may not fit into FA/DA behavior but may be caused by some personality disorder or some dynamic between the two of you. I haven't known any DA to behave in the ways he does, unless they were comorbid with something else, and then, not really.
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Post by kristyrose on Jul 5, 2018 20:20:11 GMT
Hi juniper, yes, I have considered that as well but I do think he has FA type tendencies on top of whatever else may be going on. This forum is about attachment so I tried not to overanalyze other possibilities of his mental health, but I do agree with some of the feedback that he could be a narcissist or have something else going on. I guess for me, I love him and want to understand him, as I work on myself through EMDR and therapy, I find myself feeling more compassion and curiosity than the extreme pain I felt before.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 20:26:03 GMT
i understand. i'm DA so i can't understand what he does from that perspective but maybe an FA would have better insight. i'm glad you're doing better! it's a long road, this attachment stuff.
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Post by leavethelighton on Jul 5, 2018 23:23:10 GMT
This is speculation, but it's possible his feelings within the same day aren't consistent. For example, he's feeling annoyed but then he has a wave of affection and then puts his arm around you. Or he has a time he feels generous wants to help out and do an act of service, but then when he's actually doing it feels annoyed about doing it...that sort of emotional wavering may be an FA or DA thing, but then again I also think being human can come with some inconsistency and an AP-mindset would be more likely to notice or take personally all the nuances.
Regardless of the "why" though, it sounds like it isn't working for you, and if you articulate to him what specifically you need and he can't give it, the he can't give it (not that anyone can be perfect all the time, but you know what I mean).
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Post by mrob on Jul 6, 2018 1:05:18 GMT
I can see how attachment theory has run through my life like an out of control truck, before and after my awareness of it. I always want to do the right thing by people and I know where I have let people down. It may be out of guilt or confusion about what he really wants. Being FA is this constant internal battlefield and when activated, itโs like a swinging pendulum - a wrecking ball may be a better metaphor.
The question is, are you comfortable with the situation? If the answer is no, then he needs to know his place as an ex.
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Post by kristyrose on Jul 6, 2018 17:53:53 GMT
Thanks everyone! I appreciate the input. I agree @compassionatevoid that no one can be perfect all the time and I think what is difficult in these types of situations with him, is that he sees ME as the cause and has no problem telling me that, even though I have learned over the years not to take it personal, to understand my own triggers thus not allowing his actions to affect me the way they used to- but no matter how calm and understanding I am in the moment, he tries to start an argument and can become antagonistic then blames me if I react. I think getting space from him for myself is the only solution when these times come. This time I drafted an email just explaining my perspective and experience so that he may try to understand his role in it as well. I don't know if he will read it or care, but its more for me to explain my boundaries in a way that works for him- he prefers an email mrob I really appreciate and understand all the work you are doing for yourself. I know I've said it before, but I'm so impressed and I know how hard it is. To be honest, the past month has been not as fun and good with him, so getting a little distance seems right. prior to that, things weren't so bad at all, pretty consistent hang outs, good conversations, closeness, but now he is back to a pretty strong avoidant stance. I've got some health issues right now to tend to and other things so I need to stay more focused on that. Eventually one of us will have to stop this because I doubt we both will at the same time, not sure if it will be him or me who calls uncle first.
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Post by tnr9 on Jul 6, 2018 18:45:15 GMT
Hey Kristyrose..my therapist once presented me with this question when I chose to stay stuck in a relationship that was causing me a lot of stress...what are you getting out of it? Truly....we don't stay where we aren't getting something...and then the second is...owning that you are staying...can you find whatever it is you are staying with that person for in someone or something else. Just a consideration to mull over.๐
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Post by kristyrose on Jul 6, 2018 19:39:40 GMT
Hi tnr9! Yes, always an important question to pose. For me, I still get a lot of enjoyment being around him, when things are good they are great and I truly have a hard time imagining life without him, yet I've come to accept that he cannot be a life partner for me, so I'm still keeping myself open to dating others. When the stress gets to be too much, I take a break and distract with other things in my life. I guess I'm taking it one day at a time while keeping my anxiety in check and my own needs in mind. It is always hard though, as you know, to try and understand a person who love who cannot and will not open up.
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