pilot
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Post by pilot on Mar 28, 2017 6:29:57 GMT
Does anybody here have experience with Emotionally-Focused Therapy? www.iceeft.com/
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Post by Jaeger on Mar 28, 2017 17:08:35 GMT
Does anybody here have experience with Emotionally-Focused Therapy? www.iceeft.com/Yes, actually, though in a relationship therapy setting. I convinced my dismissive ex to go with me after she had cheated on me to try and salvage the relationship. The therapist used Sue Johnson's 'Hold me tight' as a starting point for the therapy. My ex ended up going 3 times before breaking things off completely. In my experience, focusing on emotions is the last thing a dismissive will want to do. Even voicing her own emotions proved impossible for her (likely due to the alexithymia most dismissives show) and the therapy made her clamp shut, even though she said she was doing all she could (which may even be the truth, but I have my doubts. I think she just went through the motions to be able to say to the outside world that she'd tried everything. ). The other thing is that it will force them to look critically at this persona (or armor) they have created to keep the world and closeness out. Losing that would mean to acknowledge the fact that they are largely to blame for the failed relationships in their past and they will resist that heavily. So going by just my personal experience, which is by no means enough to base a larger conclusion on, it doesn't work very well for avoidants. I hope this goes a little way to answering your question.
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soho
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Post by soho on Aug 7, 2017 7:30:44 GMT
I mostly agree with Jaeger's comments but do have some positive experiences to add as well.
Frustrating was that I (AP) felt like putting more energy and effort in the EFT-therapy compared to my DA wife. She often stated she didn't see any progress in the relationship or said the lack of intimacy was not her problem. My wife also used the platform to highlight my shortcomings. We stopped the therapy because she blamed me for everything.
But, - we have made progress on the way we handle conflicts. Important was the recognition of our communication patterns. This knowledge allows us to stop conflicts to escalate. - important eye-opener for me was that the therapist learned me that my wife really needs me emotionally even though it seemed she didn t want to be close. I realised, despite the sometimes very condescening remarks, my wife is very fragile. - I changed my approach towards her (being more supportive) and we reconnected in a way. The relationship improved - but is not in balance if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 20:24:19 GMT
Given my experiences I have to agree with soho and Jaeger's comments above. I think that EMT can be helpful but it has severe limitations. My experience is that the DA just becomes way too overwhelmed. In a lot of cases they can't identify emotions or connect with them, so I often hear things like "exhausting" and "too much" when asked to attend multiple sessions. I know a DA who was so proud of owning the two Sue Johnson books (Hold Me Tight & Love Sense) and used it as proof of intent to work on relationship & self, but in actuality, never made it through Hold Me Tight (and contained activities) and has never even cracked open Love Sense. So similarly to Jaeger's experience, it often seemed like attending therapy or participating in EMT activities were to prove to the outside world that the DA had tried everything possible. When in reality, more then a session a month was too overwhelming, and homework or conversations outside therapy were totally avoided and considered "too much" in addition to everything else going on in life. For me, jury is still out on EMDR. www.webmd.com/mental-health/emdr-what-is-itI think I've seen some progress from it. Less association and fixation on old wounds by the DA; acknowledgement of links of trauma; and to some degree, just a general increased interest in self awareness and vulnerability. Since it works with the subconscious, it seems to be more successful. But perhaps that is wishful thinking. I think the therapist also has a lot to do with it. Maybe DAs work best with therapists who can give concrete solutions and actions to help them manage DA behaviors, as oppose to constantly asking the DA to identify and address feelings?
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Post by howpredictable on Aug 9, 2017 0:25:50 GMT
My experience is that the DA just becomes way too overwhelmed. In a lot of cases they can't identify emotions or connect with them, so I often hear things like "exhausting" and "too much" when asked to attend multiple sessions. I know a DA who was so proud of owning the two Sue Johnson books (Hold Me Tight & Love Sense) and used it as proof of intent to work on relationship & self, but in actuality, never made it through Hold Me Tight (and contained activities) and has never even cracked open Love Sense. This was my experience, EXACTLY. Same comments, same books, same lack of progress. It was an enormous amount of work for the DA, he looked overwhelmed a lot of the time in counselling, and I got the sense he wasn't even sure what the overall objective was.
Like trying to teach him a completely foreign language that he had never ever heard uttered before, while situated on a remote planet. It was too much for him.
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soho
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Post by soho on Aug 22, 2017 9:11:48 GMT
Like trying to teach him a completely foreign language that he had never ever heard uttered before, while situated on a remote planet. It was too much for him. Thanks to the EFT therapy I ve realized how much the language of a DA is different to the language of an AP. For me it's a key element for better understanding each other. We ve seen several therapists. Only the last one managed to get us closer. I believe that s because she managed to define the needs of both of us and was able to learn us to translate the language of our partner. We ve been challenged to talk about our emotions when we wanted to raise an issue. I d also like to repeat that that therapist changed my view concluding that my wife did need me emotionally. For my wife this was a recognition that motivated her to further invest in the therapy. Unfortunately the final outcome of the EFT therapy wasn t succesful. As said, I believe because my wife expected most of the solutions to come from me.
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