elisa
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Post by elisa on Oct 22, 2018 8:51:11 GMT
When I was AP, I was terrible at getting over relationships. I'd ruminate and blame myself while recognizing it was over and I had to move on. That often came with seeing the person less, unless we were staying friends, and eventually enough time would pass that I'd be emotionally open enough to meet someone else. Not recommended as good tactics for moving on, took way too long and kept me in cycles and patterns. The couple people I dated short term who had some sort of mental instability and were gaslighting me hit my self esteem pretty hard and made me hurt and confused. I went no contact with both and started reading about emotional abuse and gave myself a talktrack without any self blame, and felt those deeply right at the beginning but also quickly moved on with some distance. Again, those were like 4-6 weeks, so my attachment wasn't so strong. If you are AP, I'd recommend you start with yourself and your self esteem and try not to make it about any romantic partners, past or present, at this point in time. If you have been on the receiving end of emotional abuse from a partner, that's not your fault and you didn't deserve that. But now you have to take responsibility for yourself and heal. In another thread, I wrote about what I did over a long period of time to move from AP to earned secure, which makes dealing with breakups a lot easier because you are just dealing with the breakup and not layers and layers of attachment injury on top of it. jebkinnisonforum.com/thread/1262/attachment-style-self-help-suggestionsTheoretically, people can be and move between any attachment style depending on experiences and how much they let negative experiences affect them as adults. Some research indicates you'll likely stick with your primary one from childhood that's been conditioned into your nervous system, but it can be changed with self work. My personal opinion is, if you're insecure and you're shifting due to more bad experiences without healing, you'll be more likely to add more maladaptions over your primary style. So if you think of AP as high anxiety/low avoidance and low view of self/high trust in others, then bad experiences that make you more avoidant and distrustful of others isn't going to also improve your own self esteem and anxiety. So I'd think it's more likely you'd slide from AP to FA and not DA. However, if you start healing as AP and improve your self esteem and decrease your anxiety, you'll start moving towards secure. I've found that when I started consistently testing secure, it came with a true change in how I think. While I still have AP thoughts and gut reactions, I recognize them as such and they don't make sense to me to act on, so I also think once you get to secure through true healing and not just superficial level habit changes, like once your core perspectives really change, you're going to stay there. It's doable!! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I have been offline for a couple of days and wasn't able to reply earlier. It's been a difficult week but I feel blessed to have many supportive friends and family. I am working with a coach to gain more confidence (and self worth) and deal with my attachment issues. I feel that I'm on the right track even if I still think about him a lot and a part of me still wants him to return. But I remain to have no contact because I can sense I'm getting stronger every day and I keep telling myself I deserve better and that he can't give me what I want from a partner. Thank you so much for sharing this again (all of you), you have no idea how much this means to me and how much strength it gave me over the past few days. Never imagined that I could find so much support from an online forum.
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Post by elisa on Oct 22, 2018 8:58:37 GMT
Hi there....my ex is a DA and while he pulls back, shuts down and feels incapable, he didn’t have signs of a narcissist. He was always loyal, honest and respectful. The controlling and manipulation were never present in his relationship with me. When I suggested to him that maybe he would be more capable with a different partner- he told me to never even go there. He never blamed. He only looked inward at his own faults and shortcomings. This to me, is a DA. The pulling back may seem selfish but that’s my ex’s defense mechanism- the things you described about your ex would suggest he could be a narcissist. Be careful and protect your heart. 💗 He certainly has narcissistic traits. It is much clearer to me now that I've taken some distance to reflect (and analyze). Because of his ability to intentionally hurt me (bad) on an emotional level, I was able to step away from it all. There comes a point where the only choice you have is keep going on with the relationship or having some dignity... Having said that, I still blame myself from time to time, feel I'm unworthy of love and fear I'll never find someone again. While I was defintely an AP in this relationship, I was never this anxious in my previous relationships. There is something with this guy that triggered a lot of anxiousness in me and that is something I'm reflecting on during my coaching sessions.
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Post by elisa on Oct 22, 2018 9:07:39 GMT
I’m sorry about what you’re going through. Reading about this guy pisses me off cuz you didn’t deserve to treated that way, especially when he had you pick up your stuff instead of shipping it to you, knowing how hard it would be to see him and his kid. It feels like a very manipulative move on his part. I would seriously block this guy’s number cuz he’s probably gonna try to come back and treat you like crap again. Just remember that you are a loveable person worthy of love and there are a lot of people out there who can make you happy and treat you well. The reason why it’s so hard to move on isn’t about love but attachment. Just believe in yourself that you have the strength to move on from him. It will take time but eventually you will pull through. You’ll survive and thrive. You got this Thank you so much for your kind words and your support. Over the past few days I've found a lot of comfort reading your comments, kind words and support. He was trying to contact me actually, you were right about that. First he called me the day after I've picked up my stuff to ask whether I wanted the gift I bought him on his birthday back. It kind of felt that he was using that as an excuse to contact me because I had told him I couldn't come that day due to other obligations (he asked me whether I was dating again). A few days later he called again and I wasn't strong enough to not pick up. We talked and he said that he decided that he would keep the gift because it was a present and he would have a tangible memory of our time together. He wanted to stay friends which I declined... I thought trying to be friends was an AP trait and that DAs usually stay away? So confused... It did made me feel a bit stronger to say no to him and say that I don't want any contact with him because there's clearly a lack of respect from his end (he actually replied by saying that it wasn't a lack of respect but incapacity). Thank you for your supportive words nyrotunes, I cannot express my gratitude.
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