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Post by jrewsus on May 30, 2017 18:00:26 GMT
My ex and I was dating for 6 months ( she could never commit to anything more) after a long period of the anxious / avoidant trap we broke up ( her call). during this time she was with me but showed 0 affection, was not responsive to my needs and she was cold and dismissive and angry. A few breaks here and there but over all very difficult to be around and triggered my anxious habits to peak. she said she had lost feeling and felt emotionless. The next 3-4 weeks she wanted nothing to do with me, I would call ,she would be dismissive, cold, standoffish, and uninterested. after the 2 week mark I stopped contact her. Two weeks later she decided to contact me. She begins to txt me over the weekend, say hi, then apologizing for contacting me. I said hi the next day and said "i was thinking of her and just wanted to say hi". she responds with "i was thinking about you too and hopes im having a good weekend". we chit chat for a few and i tell her i miss her, she responds with a emoji... The next day we chit chat about random things and we flirt a little. That night she says shes misses me and wants to come over to talk. She was immediately affectionate. Hugging, kissing ect. She actually broke down and expressed her feelings to me for once, explain her down falls and why in her mind we ended up like this. she said "I am truly sorry" Things went better and we had intercourse. She seemed into it and she did show emotion. even after we talk and hugged for a long time a first ever for us. Her final thought wasthat things arnt going to change but she is slowly becoming her self and feeling again. but she cant promise me anything or doesn't want me to expect anything. I am so confused now, i was doing well, starting to be happy again. I was starting to accept that this wasnt going to work out. Then she came from left field. Im not sure if all that happend was genuine, or maybe she felt guilty to cut me off, or maybe she found someone else and she needed to see if she has feelings for me? Now i dont know how to act. My mind is all over once again. im doing my best to tame it. What my plan is to give her space and time but try not expect anything. But it is so hard when i feel so much from her, and she is the person I want to be with. Side note: i try to recommend her a book ( attached- amir levin) she is convinced it doesnt apply to her and is closed minded towards it. its sucks because i think it would really help her. Please any advice is welcome!!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 1:16:17 GMT
Hi jrewsus, Sorry to hear about your experience. These situations are always tough, as most of us start falling in love with someone, often even before their DA behaviours start appearing or become obvious. It's always hard to disengage when there are so many other things we like/love about the person and they keep coming around and giving us scraps of intimacy and glimpses of hope.
It seems like you have a pretty good handle on the situation, and have done your best to support this person and try to suggest some reading on attachment theory. If she's not interesting in exploring more, there isn't much you can do. Even if she was open to learning more, it would be a long winding road to understanding. It sounds like you were already struggling with the anxious/avoidant trap, so you're probably just avoiding a lot of future pain and struggle.
The great news is you're aware and educated about attachment already, which means someone awesome and secure is going to come along for you and you'll know how to spot it. And in return you'll be able to be awesome and secure back for her.
My final advice would be do go no contact with this person, so that you can move on and start dating other people.
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Post by jrewsus on May 31, 2017 18:17:25 GMT
I think she wants to take it slow and see how it goes. I dont know if I am capable of this.
One hand I have strong feelings for her and she brings out some good qualities in me. On the other hand she triggers my anxious insecurities.
So i feel conflicted, being the person that I am, I cannot have interest in her and then try to go out with or see someone else, Ill feel bad and also I wont give that other person a fair shot.
We spoke last night again, she called me surprisingly. It was nice but I could pick up when she was using her defense mechanism and knew when she would take jabs at me. I feel like deep down she is afraid because she cares about me but she doesnt want to seem weak or that she cares too. I am afraid to lose something good with her and im afraid to also lose my self. I dont know what to do. Being in this place isnt fun.
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Post by jrewsus on Jun 6, 2017 19:05:06 GMT
I think I have successfully knocked myself back down... -_-
In the past week we went form full on great back to the point now where she is bearly talking to me again.. I feel so numb and depressed for letting myself get back to feeling like this.
basically Wed, Thru of last week saw eachother and did things we'd normally do ( work out, grocery shop, have food, talk, laugh, flirt)
on Friday we decided to go on a date... my first trigger went off, I usually picked her up, she insisted on meeting me by my house then we leave from there, My though was that she was seeing someone else on our time apart and didnt want her family to see me get her. she said she just didnt want to be asked questions by her family. I let it be but it bothered me the whole night, I pushed it aside, we had a great date, talked about alot, laughed, and she even came over after. Things became intimate and it was a mutual good time.
she left around 2am and go home i couldn't shake the though of her and someone else, and when i asked her about it at first she was very dismissive but vaguely said no. When she called to say she got in I again asked her, which angered her, she said she told me this answer and how I keep asking about stupid things. she then proceeded to say how I messed up the great night we had.
The next day she was standoffish towards me, saying how she though it was a bad idea that she came back. She was hesitant if this could work. We talked it through I told her it was a set back but I will correct it. Not knowing how hard that was. WE had a good day hanging out. That night we both had different things to do. She told me what she had plan but was vague with details, not checking in at all.
AS the night progressed I got anxious, I sent her a txt just saying hey hope your night is going well. no response for a while, about 2hrs later I txted her back "thanks for responding". she responded about 1/2 after that, with a very vague txt also getting upset about my comment for not responding.
The night progresses, i txt she doesnt respond. So I call her to see if we could possibly meet up, we spoke about maybe doing this at the end of the night, she rejects my call, then picks up and proceeds to be rude towards me.
she calls me a little later on her way home and we argue and she was just super cold and pushed away.
I understand what I did wrong, I should of gave her space, My mind took over and i overthink ed. I am to blame I needed to be more secure in myself and what she said to no let that affect me. MY anxiety got the best of me and i feel like i pushed her away.
Now she is very distant again towards me, not making an effort to have a conversation. I dont know what to do, I am trying to leave her alone but my mind is going crazy. I feel like im just stuck on her, our situation and how it went bad again. I am disappointed in getting back into this bad place again, I feel depressed.
I feel like i know how i need to be, secure and just be here and not expect anything but I dont know why i cant do that.
IF anyone has any advice please chime in.
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Post by jlm131 on Jun 6, 2017 20:00:14 GMT
Hey, you did nothing wrong. Take it from someone who has been doing this dance for over 2 years. When my dismissive drops me, she drops me - going silent for weeks at a time. I blame myself, wonder if she will come back, she always does and I promise myself I will be better. I promise my friends and family I won't get as attached this time, and guess what??? So you will do this until you decide to stop, and no judgment here cause I am in the middle of a down cycle that has crossed the 3 week mark and I will take her back in a second. As far as you asking for reassurance, I get it. She should have said of course I'm not seeing anyone else, I wouldn't do that to you, don't worry - Cause that's what I and probably you would say if the question was asked in reverse. And as far as them being vague on details on nights out, its a bizzare independence thing. It's not that they are up to no good. I and probably you would gladly share the details of a night out, cause it's not prying, just nice to know how the other is spending their time; to them it's an attack. So my advice would be trust her if she says no the first time, don't ask why she hasn't responded back (remember she's independent (dumb, I know)) and don't blame yourself as she will do that for you. The anger and whatever else they feel fades and they miss you and things are back to "normal" usually with some time. Just don't beg her, let her come to you as she will feel like she is making the independent choice to do so. Hope that helps. Good luck with your avoidant, and wish me luck with mine.
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Post by gaynxious on Jun 6, 2017 20:29:52 GMT
It never changes. Do yourself a favor and move on. It sucks. It seems like they should be able to and want to change but it's rare. There are so many people out there that will love you the way you need to be loved. At times I still want my ex back but I know it would just be a temporary fix until his distancing and deactivating restarts and I would be ultimately unhappy.
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Post by jrewsus on Jun 7, 2017 12:11:06 GMT
jlm131- THANK YOU SO MUCH!
jeeze it helps alot to know im not going crazy here with the way I feel! Im glad to see how you handle your situation and you seem to be strong and in control of your emotions. I hope to get there too. I do wish you luck on your relationship I hope we both get to the light at the end of the tunnel.
I took a different approach yesterday towards her, I didnt hear from her all day, my anxiety was getting over bearing and my over thinking. I gave in and i texted her but in the a way I wouldn't normally. Instead of being accusing, or intrusive as to why she hasnt txted me all day, i was easy going and light hearted. I texted her a simple "hey there" she took a little to respond, then i made a joke of it, and she started to respond quicker, we talked about non serious things. She ended up indirectly telling me that she was doing something after work alone. I think she wanted me to suggest i go with her, which i did. We ended up spending the evening out, had dinner and talked alot. It was nice, i didnt bring up "us" or our issues. By doing so she did on her own when she felt like it.
I think i need to start to take a non pro active approach towards here and just go with the flow.
My issue is my mind and my anxiousness, i need to keep the thoughts at bay and not let them turn negative. I still dont know what her feelings are towards me. I mean if shes spending time with me and responding to me I'm guessing that even tho we are not together she has interest in me or else she would just let me go completely. Ideally i would like a clear cut answer but i dont think that is in her nature.
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Post by preettee6008 on Sept 21, 2018 20:44:17 GMT
Hi there...
It's been some time since you replied and I've been following your thread as I'm also in the same situation.
May I ask what's come of your relationship? Are you still together?
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