|
Post by kisstheviolets on Aug 1, 2019 20:38:20 GMT
Hello all!
Just got back from therapy this afternoon. It was a tough one. I do EMDR therapy as well as exploring attachment. She dropped a bomb today she suspects I am FA.
I feel like talking about my FA when drinking.
WOW. Always so much more emotive, about everything. This is the time he would say he loved me too much or was scared of the changes I would bring. This was when he cried so hard... after his birthday party or when talking about childhood memories. So so different.
Any similar experiences?
|
|
|
Post by happyidiot on Aug 1, 2019 20:56:13 GMT
kisstheviolets Yeah of course, everyone is less inhibited when drinking. Alcohol lowers anxiety and fear. As to your therapist suspecting you are actually FA too, I can sure relate to that too. I came here because I was crushed by an FA ex, only to find out I was FA myself. Want to share why your therapist suggested you might be FA?
|
|
|
Post by kisstheviolets on Aug 1, 2019 22:17:45 GMT
Hi!
Are the emotions genuine? I mean when I am drunk YES I feel so wonderful and open and everything I say I mean.
That gives me some comfort that you can relate. I think she has been holding on to this information because as I discuss my FA with her, I have said many times how I feel sad for him and I am just so glad I am not like that because what a long journey ahead....
She said my relationship with my mother first put it on her radar. I feel physically uneasy around her and we don’t exchange affections though I love her dearly.
I can maintain relationships but command space- throw myself into work, get physically repulsed by people I am close to, overstimulation, come here go away.... isolating myself is a big one. Many other things I haven’t even yet explored... I am also an HSP so I always attributed so much of this to that. I never considered myself afraid in relationships??? Never.
|
|
|
Post by serenity on Aug 1, 2019 22:24:26 GMT
Morning Violets <3
Something I was going to ask you yesterday, is do you feel that some of what you experienced (the cheating, the sudden deactivations) to have felt traumatic to you personally? It occurred to me that a lot of us involved with FA's or DA's have bonded with our partners traumatically, and have developed a ` trauma bond' at some point. Its very common, though not necessarily whats going on with you. I just thought I'd ask the question? Then as the relationship continues, we can desensitize and maybe numb a little due to the resulting complex PTSD. That's not to say any of this was due to malicious intent by our partners, but those issues can somewhat disempower us and make life feel like a struggle at times. They can also make us `split' and `paint our partners black' (ie see them as all bad), during a major PTSD attack. Those are all really great issues to explore with a mental health person if you have one to talk to?.
I'm not at all surprised your therapist suspects that your attachment with your FA has swung you FA as well. You've obviously read your FA well, and deal with his unreliability via seeking your own independence. I would suspect from my own interactions with you, that this is some combination of PTSD numbing, and a natural reaction to someone chaotic/traumatic in your life? True FA's deactivate because of intimacy and closeness. I think you detach because its the safest most reasonable response to the real situation personally.(just my opinion, for what its worth).
The approach I have taken with myself, when dealing with FA's during a major deactivation , is to first deal with the trauma bond. Trauma bonds mess up our neurochemicals and need a bit of time to settle down. A few months of clearing the bond (together with proper reflection and talking to people, like you are doing) can be fantastic for clear headed decision making, I found personally. 1 month at least can still do wonders, if you are taking good care of yourself. No contact really helps with this, but in my personal experience, it isn't always essential.
Some people refer to this as `coming out of a Fog'. The other part I've been trying hard to deal with is my own tendency to split. Like those deactivations HURRRRT and in the past i have abandoned people I love because of it. I'm trying to deal with my PTSD ina more balanced way.. like shuffling people to ``outer circle'' freinds if they are too triggering (sometimes this is just temporary), rather than dumping them. I'm honestly a lot happier since I've been doing that and its why i still have a small number of FA exes as close loyal friends.
Anyway theres a lot more to talk about of course. But I thought to mention complex PTSD and trauma bonding to you, in case you haven't already researched the terms. Its very empowering.
((hugs))
(And yeah, I saw the really beautiful side in some of FA's because of alcohol and reduced anxiety too)
|
|
|
Post by tnr9 on Aug 28, 2019 9:50:59 GMT
Hi! Are the emotions genuine? I mean when I am drunk YES I feel so wonderful and open and everything I say I mean. That gives me some comfort that you can relate. I think she has been holding on to this information because as I discuss my FA with her, I have said many times how I feel sad for him and I am just so glad I am not like that because what a long journey ahead.... She said my relationship with my mother first put it on her radar. I feel physically uneasy around her and we don’t exchange affections though I love her dearly. I can maintain relationships but command space- throw myself into work, get physically repulsed by people I am close to, overstimulation, come here go away.... isolating myself is a big one. Many other things I haven’t even yet explored... I am also an HSP so I always attributed so much of this to that. I never considered myself afraid in relationships??? Never. So....B hated confrontation and he would get drunk before he would have any serious conversation...but it was not just that....B was drunk the first time he took he took his shirt off in front of me...he apologized for being “too hairy”....he was drunk the very first time he said I love you, he was drunk the first time he tried to break up with me, he was drunk the next evening when I met his best friend (his friend said he had never seen B so drunk before), he was drunk when he officially broke up with me and he was drunk this last time he was over. In fact, practically every time he came over while we were “dating”, he would drink....it definitely made him more honest....but he was also incredibly impulsive. There were so many hurtful truths this last time. I hate that it will be the last time I see him...but....I just cannot be friends right now.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 23:52:04 GMT
|
|
|
Post by kisstheviolets on Aug 29, 2019 2:02:20 GMT
Hi! Are the emotions genuine? I mean when I am drunk YES I feel so wonderful and open and everything I say I mean. That gives me some comfort that you can relate. I think she has been holding on to this information because as I discuss my FA with her, I have said many times how I feel sad for him and I am just so glad I am not like that because what a long journey ahead.... She said my relationship with my mother first put it on her radar. I feel physically uneasy around her and we don’t exchange affections though I love her dearly. I can maintain relationships but command space- throw myself into work, get physically repulsed by people I am close to, overstimulation, come here go away.... isolating myself is a big one. Many other things I haven’t even yet explored... I am also an HSP so I always attributed so much of this to that. I never considered myself afraid in relationships??? Never. So....B hated confrontation and he would get drunk before he would have any serious conversation...but it was not just that....B was drunk the first time he took he took his shirt off in front of me...he apologized for being “too hairy”....he was drunk the very first time he said I love you, he was drunk the first time he tried to break up with me, he was drunk the next evening when I met his best friend (his friend said he had never seen B so drunk before), he was drunk when he officially broke up with me and he was drunk this last time he was over. In fact, practically every time he came over while we were “dating”, he would drink....it definitely made him more honest....but he was also incredibly impulsive. There were so many hurtful truths this last time. I hate that it will be the last time I see him...but....I just cannot be friends right now. [ I feel for you so much in that. I have cried nonstop the past two days because I miss J so damn much. I too know I will never ever ever talk to him again. It hurts so much. We are in such a similar situation at the moment. All my love and hugs. I’m sure you also wonder if the drunk B was the more honest one?
|
|
|
Post by tnr9 on Aug 29, 2019 2:30:40 GMT
So....B hated confrontation and he would get drunk before he would have any serious conversation...but it was not just that....B was drunk the first time he took he took his shirt off in front of me...he apologized for being “too hairy”....he was drunk the very first time he said I love you, he was drunk the first time he tried to break up with me, he was drunk the next evening when I met his best friend (his friend said he had never seen B so drunk before), he was drunk when he officially broke up with me and he was drunk this last time he was over. In fact, practically every time he came over while we were “dating”, he would drink....it definitely made him more honest....but he was also incredibly impulsive. There were so many hurtful truths this last time. I hate that it will be the last time I see him...but....I just cannot be friends right now. [ I feel for you so much in that. I have cried nonstop the past two days because I miss J so damn much. I too know I will never ever ever talk to him again. It hurts so much. We are in such a similar situation at the moment. All my love and hugs. I’m sure you also wonder if the drunk B was the more honest one? He was definitely more direct, but I don’t think B ever lied....he has ADHD and oftentimes would say truthful things that stung a bit..even without alcohol....last summer he revealed that he was with me and because he was lonely and looking for a cuddle buddy....and when I replied how that made me feel so common, that I could have been any girl in our community...he said he grew to love me....he said almost the same thing when he broke up with me...only it was that he did not think it would be anything more than a fling but that he grew to love me. Last time I saw him...he left off the part of how he grew to love me and just reminded me how he had tried to break up with me earlier when I said I did not like how the break up happened. I think he cares about me as someone who was there for him at a really difficult point in his life but that is it.
|
|