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Post by kisstheviolets on Nov 16, 2019 23:30:22 GMT
Hello all! I am crazy I know so go easy on me. I see a pattern here. And what I suppose I am looking for thoughts on is, if this man is not aware of his issues, certainly this pattern will play out again right? There really was nothing I could have done to change this.? I would love support to reinforce that this has nothing to do with me not being enough. I am working on that really hard.
My FA ex and his history the past 10 years. He is 41 and never married.
V- lived together, dumped her 2 years April 2010 July 2012
S- Wouldn’t commit 3 to 6 months. Overlap June 2012 Nov 2012
Steph- Wouldn’t commit Aug 2012 Jan 2013 Unsure on exact length as they still talk and have been friends since HS. I believe she was really into him.
M- lived together, she is really nice. Dumped her on the day they were to sign a home loan. He said it was because she seemed to complain about living in a smaller city. 2.5 years. Overlap with SG Mar 2013? Sept 2015?
SG dumped her. He said it was because they talked about kids and marriage but it never progressed and he didn’t think he liked her. 2 years oct 2015 Mar 2017
E-she dumped him- saw stuff on phone. He claimed there was no passion in this relationship.6 months July 2017 Feb 2018
Me- wouldn’t commit 1.5 years overlap Feb 2018 June 2019
SG round 2- she dumped him for seeing my texts. He went back to her when she started seeing someone else and claimed he loved her. Lasted 3 months. Was seeing us both. Jan 2019 April 2019
L- current. Moved in and discussing marriage. Overlap with myself and SG April 2019
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Post by alexandra on Nov 17, 2019 1:44:34 GMT
kisstheviolets, this focus is all on him and not on yourself. I know you're working with a therapist already, but as you can see, no one he's with is "enough" for him so there's no point in further scrutiny. Here's the thing. If someone is unhappy with themselves and looking for the "one" to fix that, they'll never be in a stable, functional, and healthy long-term relationship. They just want a bandaid / distraction so they can feel good without doing difficult healing work and being okay with themselves. Short cut! That can't last because it's not fixing the core reasons for that person's damaged relationship with themselves. And if you can't be complete on your own and require other people to fill your voids (and yes, this can apply to anxious or avoidant, though the voids and needs are different in each), then you'll never be able to comfortably make the decision to commit for the long-haul. A healthy relationship is about getting to know someone and choosing to be on a team with them. It's about mixing inter- and intra-dependence to make life easier and more fulfilling. It's not about someone being enough for someone else, because a healthy person is foundationally enough for themselves but still wants to share with another person (or persons). It's not about finding another person to meet all your needs so you don't have to meet them on your own. There's no "one" -- there's actually several you may be compatible with, or there's none if you're emotionally unavailable, lack true vulnerability, and don't consciously make the decision to be open to a reciprocal relationship. I know you feel stuck and are trying to let go but aren't there yet. Your ex isn't your real problem, which is why you're still endlessly ruminating. There's something from before your ex you need to heal. Once you do that, you won't "need" him, and you'll be able to feel more confident about choosing people who also choose serious relationships (assuming that's what your goal is).
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Post by faithopelove on Nov 17, 2019 3:45:25 GMT
Regardless of attachment style I wouldn’t trust a partner like this bc they lack integrity and honesty. Partner hopping and/or overlapping, keeping secret relationships- they may have insecure reasons or not for their actions, but I wouldn’t be able to respect a person like that. One thing I learned in my divorce- if I don’t respect you then I can’t love you or stay long-term. Recognize his flaws and ask if you’d want to willingly sign up for that...then I agree w Alexandra, you need to put your focus on you. Hang in there 💙
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Post by stu on Nov 18, 2019 2:02:28 GMT
Regardless of attachment style I wouldn’t trust a partner like this bc they lack integrity and honesty. Partner hopping and/or overlapping, keeping secret relationships- they may have insecure reasons or not for their actions, but I wouldn’t be able to respect a person like that. One thing I learned in my divorce- if I don’t respect you then I can’t love you or stay long-term. Recognize his flaws and ask if you’d want to willingly sign up for that...then I agree w Alexandra, you need to put your focus on you. Hang in there 💙 Insecure reasons or not. Having secret relationships, being deceptive, lying, cheating, and going behind someone's or multiple people's backs. That's someone who is not worth a single minute of time and will never be a reciprocal and committed partner for anyone until they seriously work on themselves and break those habits, if they ever get to the point they are willing to. It kind of surprises me how long people can act out patterns like that without any sense of awareness or something that finally makes them change. I just don't understand the point of making a commitment and relationship with someone if you don't want to be committed. It's much easier to be single and non committed if you don't want to be truly attached to anyone and date or see as many people as you like, honestly.
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Post by annieb on Nov 26, 2019 16:48:08 GMT
Regardless of attachment style I wouldn’t trust a partner like this bc they lack integrity and honesty. Partner hopping and/or overlapping, keeping secret relationships- they may have insecure reasons or not for their actions, but I wouldn’t be able to respect a person like that. One thing I learned in my divorce- if I don’t respect you then I can’t love you or stay long-term. Recognize his flaws and ask if you’d want to willingly sign up for that...then I agree w Alexandra, you need to put your focus on you. Hang in there 💙 Insecure reasons or not. Having secret relationships, being deceptive, lying, cheating, and going behind someone's or multiple people's backs. That's someone who is not worth a single minute of time and will never be a reciprocal and committed partner for anyone until they seriously work on themselves and break those habits, if they ever get to the point they are willing to. It kind of surprises me how long people can act out patterns like that without any sense of awareness or something that finally makes them change. I just don't understand the point of making a commitment and relationship with someone if you don't want to be committed. It's much easier to be single and non committed if you don't want to be truly attached to anyone and date or see as many people as you like, honestly. Agreed, you can not and should not trust a person with this many overlaps in relationships and outward lying and cheating. They probably have problems, but it is not your job to figure them out. This is a good one to move on from and never look back.
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