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Post by fatiguedllama89 on Feb 15, 2020 14:08:33 GMT
Hello everyone.
I would really appreciate your insight as I'm in a very bad place emotionally.
I was in a 5 year relationship with a guy who unfortunately displayed typical avoidant behavior (avoiding intimacy, no empathy, stonewalling, emotional withholding). We lived seperately as he was very reluctant to move in with me.
He ghosted me this June. I was completely devastated and blindsided.
Yesterday, a common friend told me that my ex had entered a new relationship in August. He apparently moved in with her in September. He posts pictures with his new gf on social media, while he refused to do so with me. He told our common friend that his new gf is a great match for him.
I'm dumbfounded.
Can someone explain to me how this girl received all the commitment I was striving for for 5 years?
Can a DA change his attachment style that easily?
Please, help me make sense of this..
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Post by annieb on Feb 15, 2020 15:20:24 GMT
Hello everyone. I would really appreciate your insight as I'm in a very bad place emotionally. I was in a 5 year relationship with a guy who unfortunately displayed typical avoidant behavior (avoiding intimacy, no empathy, stonewalling, emotional withholding). We lived seperately as he was very reluctant to move in with me. He ghosted me this June. I was completely devastated and blindsided. Yesterday, a common friend told me that my ex had entered a new relationship in August. He apparently moved in with her in September. He posts pictures with his new gf on social media, while he refused to do so with me. He told our common friend that his new gf is a great match for him. I'm dumbfounded. Can someone explain to me how this girl received all the commitment I was striving for for 5 years? Can a DA change his attachment style that easily? Please, help me make sense of this.. I’m sorry you are experiencing this. This is sometimes how avoidants would act, they would vilify you and jump into a new relationship blaming only you for what was wrong with your relationship. In time the new relationship will run its course. The new woman will start getting stonewalled and emotionally abused also, and depending on her boundaries she may or may not stay. Most people leave the avoidants generally, and they don’t change. They do change temporarily to lovebomb somebody, but then revert to their ways of blaming the partner. That’s been my experience.
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Post by alexandra on Feb 15, 2020 18:40:28 GMT
No empathy isn't typical avoidant behavior. It can happen temporarily during deactivation because the nervous system is shut down and in self defense mode. But true no empathy is a form of sociopathy. A person of decent character wouldn't just ghost on a partner of 5 years and move on without a word. There's very likely other mental health issues going on there, and his "commitment" level to the new woman has nothing to do with you.
I'm sorry that happened, and it's certainly extremely painful to just be abandoned by a partner of so long. You're not going to feel any better comparing your situation with the new person's though -- you may in fact feel a bit sorry for her because she likely doesn't know his true character yet and past behavior is a huge predictor of future behavior. I personally would never, ever want to date someone who ghosted wordlessly on a long-term ex to end the relationship. The only thing you can really do now as you go through the mourning process is examine within yourself why you were willing to stay so long with someone who refused to meet your needs, and start to rebuild your own self-esteem. But whatever happened has zero to do with him changing his attachment style, he just is a garbage person and he still sucks.
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Post by fatiguedllama89 on Feb 15, 2020 20:00:18 GMT
annieb: Yes, especially in the last few months he would dismiss my concerns, blame me for creating imaginary problems and for ruining our relationship. Thank you for sharing your experience, it made me feel better. alexandra: You are correct. He wasn't the most empathetic person in the world but when in defense mode, he shut down completely. I rarely cried in front of him but whenever I did, he would just stand in front of me expressionless or tell me to grow up. I'm starting therapy sessions next week in order to find out why I was so attracted to this man and why I didn't leave earlier. I don't want to go through this ever again. Thank you a lot for your reply.
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Post by annieb on Feb 15, 2020 20:17:39 GMT
annieb : Yes, especially in the last few months he would dismiss my concerns, blame me for creating imaginary problems and for ruining our relationship. Thank you for sharing your experience, it made me feel better. alexandra : You are correct. He wasn't the most empathetic person in the world but when in defense mode, he shut down completely. I rarely cried in front of him but whenever I did, he would just stand in front of me expressionless or tell me to grow up. I'm starting therapy sessions next week in order to find out why I was so attracted to this man and why I didn't leave earlier. I don't want to go through this ever again. Thank you a lot for your reply. I'm glad this helps. When I was breaking up with my last DA, I had a sense to reach out to his previous ex, who he had vilified to me. She was absolutely lovely to me and confirmed all the behaviors that I had been experiencing. She advised me to GTFO, and I did, but the break up dragged on for a while. It's almost better that he ghosted you.
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Post by faithopelove on Feb 15, 2020 23:24:27 GMT
He just left without a word? I agree w everything the others said and I also agree...that is extreme even for a DA. Especially after a long term relationship. Usually they shut down during deactivation and then recover.
My DA will predictively shut down when triggered, but it lasts from a few days to weeks. He then “thaws out.” Sounds like your ex has other issues besides insecure attachment.
Don’t worry about the new girl- his true colors will surface soon enough!
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Post by mrob on Feb 16, 2020 0:07:21 GMT
There’s more to this than meets the eye, I’d say.
I can relate to having a woman cry in front of me and having nothing at my disposal. Just nothing there. Knowing I should do or feel something, but nothing.
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Post by amber on Feb 16, 2020 1:41:53 GMT
If you look at the literature on attachment styles, studies have shown they are relatively stable over time. People can change attachment styles, through changing what they call their “inner working model” of attachment through having a positive r/ship with a therapist or romantic partner, but the percentage is not high. What you have been through sounds horrific! Your ex is on the rebound with this new woman and likely caught up in honeymoon and new relationship energy. He won’t have a r/ship that’s any functional with her unless he does the work
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Post by fatiguedllama89 on Feb 16, 2020 8:13:54 GMT
Thank you everyone for your replies.
The last day I spoke to him was on the phone. He sounded irritable so I asked him why. He said he was going to the gym and didn't want to have this conversation. I told him we should be open about our problems and he replied that I'm whining again and that he has more serious issues in his life to deal with (I was not aware of any issues). The conversation was getting heated so I asked him to come over to my house on Friday and he agreed.
He never showed up. I was used to him disappearing after arguments so I let a few days pass by. Then I started to get worried. I called his mum who assured me he is ok. I was so angry and tired of being ignored, so I messaged him on facebook, saying "You promised me you'd come over my house on Friday. You ignore me for 2 weeks straight which is belittling to me. If I don't hear from you till tomorrow, I'll assume you've broken up with me." He read my message but never replied.
Our common friend told me that his parents found out about his new gf in August. They got very upset that he had broken up with me. They told him that his gf is not welcome to their house. Even to this day, his parents are still giving him the cold shoulder.
But even knowing that, doesn't give me relief. He got rid of me like garbage, the fastest way possible. He knew I was having a bad time dealing with symptoms of an autoimmune disease, but he didn't even have the decency of a proper breakup. I got bad flare ups due to the stress of being ghosted.
But here we are today, me depressed and him, having fun with his gf, guilt-free.
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Post by malambing on Feb 16, 2020 9:49:24 GMT
He didnt ghost you. You told him if you didnt hear from him by tomorrow you will take it as you have broken up. You have your answer.
Sorry I know it seems abrupt but at that stage he probably thought there was nothing left to say anyway. If he really does consider it over its probably better that there is no contact so that you can start healing.
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Post by malambing on Feb 16, 2020 9:50:42 GMT
And I agree with the other posters here that he will probably treat the new gf the same way he did you once he is triggered.
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