|
Post by BecomingMe on May 3, 2020 15:58:05 GMT
kittycat1230, happy to know that you're working with a therapist and also doing the self love course! If you think you are detached from the outcome of reaching out, then sure, revisit it after a few weeks. You might even have a change of heart with all the self work you're doing. Whatever it is, I would say be clear about what you want and ask for it. Sometimes we think we can settle for friendship when we actually don't want to. This was very tough for me as an FA. Very often when you're dating someone with insecure attachment and you never fight, it is because the other person is actually not communicating -- it isn't because you've resolved conflicts as they come up. This is how you can end up blindsided, thinking everything is good, and then there's a break up that appears to have been made without much thought or attempt to fix the relationship. There was thought, but the person did their conflict resolution by not communicating, holding in resentment, projecting (probably rooted past issues that don't even have anything to do with you, but the partner is convinced they do, as this is a hallmark of insecure attachment and why it's hard to earn secure), choosing not to be open or direct with you and work with you to solve the problem, and (in the case of an avoidant) detach / shutdown because that's how their nervous systems are wired to handle conflictThe above point that alexandra makes is a very, very important one. Check in with yourself about how conflicts were dealt with in your relationship. Avoidants(myself included when I was severely dismissive) do this a lot because of how they grew up. I used to think I wasn't exacerbating a situation by not talking about it. It would usually lead to a lot resentment building up and I would reach a state where I'd feel the only way to fix anything is to leave, completely ignoring the fact that there is another person in this relationship. It is healthy to talk about needs and to tell your partner when their behaviour upsets you in any way. It's the only way to grow. I had to learn all of this in therapy. Whatever you do, I hope you put your well-being first and foremost. I wish you all the best!
|
|
|
Post by kittycat1230 on May 3, 2020 17:48:27 GMT
kittycat1230, happy to know that you're working with a therapist and also doing the self love course! If you think you are detached from the outcome of reaching out, then sure, revisit it after a few weeks. You might even have a change of heart with all the self work you're doing. Whatever it is, I would say be clear about what you want and ask for it. Sometimes we think we can settle for friendship when we actually don't want to. This was very tough for me as an FA. Very often when you're dating someone with insecure attachment and you never fight, it is because the other person is actually not communicating -- it isn't because you've resolved conflicts as they come up. This is how you can end up blindsided, thinking everything is good, and then there's a break up that appears to have been made without much thought or attempt to fix the relationship. There was thought, but the person did their conflict resolution by not communicating, holding in resentment, projecting (probably rooted past issues that don't even have anything to do with you, but the partner is convinced they do, as this is a hallmark of insecure attachment and why it's hard to earn secure), choosing not to be open or direct with you and work with you to solve the problem, and (in the case of an avoidant) detach / shutdown because that's how their nervous systems are wired to handle conflictThe above point that alexandra makes is a very, very important one. Check in with yourself about how conflicts were dealt with in your relationship. Avoidants(myself included when I was severely dismissive) do this a lot because of how they grew up. I used to think I wasn't exacerbating a situation by not talking about it. It would usually lead to a lot resentment building up and I would reach a state where I'd feel the only way to fix anything is to leave, completely ignoring the fact that there is another person in this relationship. It is healthy to talk about needs and to tell your partner when their behaviour upsets you in any way. It's the only way to grow. I had to learn all of this in therapy. Whatever you do, I hope you put your well-being first and foremost. I wish you all the best! This is very helpful to hear thank you <3 Did anybody guide or give you a nudge in to therapy? Or did you decide completely on your own that it would help you?
|
|
|
Post by alexandra on May 3, 2020 18:04:03 GMT
Did anybody guide or give you a nudge in to therapy? Or did you decide completely on your own that it would help you? Therapy doesn't work if you're not motivated to do it on your own. There's lots of threads on this board of partners who tried to tell their ex-partners about attachment theory and gently nudge them into therapy, and it fails to get through in every thread. If the person was open to it or ready for it, they'd have discussed issues with you and been doing their own work, which may have included therapy, before breaking up the relationship. I'm not saying this to be mean or defeatist -- it's just breaking these attachment issues is extremely difficult, personal independent work, painful, rebuilding your entire identity. You can't make another person do that, as another person can't make you do that. We've seen so many examples on this board that always play out the same way if the ex-partner is unaware and not already in process, and I've lived through it multiple times myself before learning to forget about the other unwilling person "healing" or changing, and focus on yourself, addressing your own issues, and then finding someone else already ready and prepared for the relationship you want.
|
|
|
Post by BecomingMe on May 4, 2020 2:39:48 GMT
kittycat1230 I was in an abusive marriage for 5 years. My ex husband was an anxious attached who had no control on his anger when triggered (verbal abuse, throwing/breaking things around the house etc). We also had a lot of problems around sex in our marriage. After I got of my marriage, I thought I needed therapy only to "fix" my problems around how I viewed sex and men. What came out was a whole other can of worms - my mother's abusive behaviour due to her mental health problems, my abandonment issues, my lack of trust in other people, how I would never ask for my needs, my shutting down and running away from people when any conflict arose. It's only now I realise how much my avoidance contributed to the dysfunction in my marriage. To my friends and family, I was the stable one in that marriage because I would never show extreme emotions. Its been almost three years since my divorce. I have secure, stable and healthy friends who've helped me learn to trust that people will not leave or hurt me. But I could not have done half of my self work without the help of my therapist. What I believe is that, when you have deep trauma like mine, healthy friendship/relationships are necessary but actual healing comes from sticking with therapy and doing the work. Hope this helps.
|
|
|
Post by mehere on May 11, 2020 20:24:34 GMT
Ive been the "him" of situations many times. Its always abrupt and out of nowhere to them but not at all to me. I also don't ever miss them or want to try it again. I dont keep in touch and when they reach out I usually ignore or if i respond i inadvertently end up making them feel rejected all over again. I never feel its an innocent checking in its because they want more from me and i wasn't willing to give that more when i ended it and im not willing to months later either. There's many men who believe im "the one who got away" although I disagree. Best wishes in applying attachment theory to your dating and finding proper matches, dear. Practice makes perfect although it's hard and messy its worth it. I’m sorry if this might have been covered already, I read as many threads as I could... My DA boyfriend broke up with me 2 weeks ago. It was very abrupt, and didn’t make sense to me at all until I discovered attachment theory. We were incredibly happy, never fought. Then it all made sense. I love him with my whole heart, and I actually feel my love for him strengthened once I discovered his DA attachment. It hurts that he must be hurting so very deep down. But anyway, I respect that he does not want to have any interaction with me. We are NC. In the breakup he was very cold, I asked if he really did love me, and in a very business transaction tone said “I do love you, but I made my decision.” I was thinking of reaching out in about another month, maybe 6 weeks, with very light, non-emotional content just to see if he would be at a place where he’s interested in re-engaging. I would like the perspective of a DA here - how long after a breakup with someone you really loved did you find you would have been/were receptive to contact?
|
|
|
Post by kittycat1230 on Jun 3, 2020 15:34:15 GMT
I’m sorry if this might have been covered already, I read as many threads as I could... My DA boyfriend broke up with me 2 weeks ago. It was very abrupt, and didn’t make sense to me at all until I discovered attachment theory. We were incredibly happy, never fought. Then it all made sense. I love him with my whole heart, and I actually feel my love for him strengthened once I discovered his DA attachment. It hurts that he must be hurting so very deep down. But anyway, I respect that he does not want to have any interaction with me. We are NC. In the breakup he was very cold, I asked if he really did love me, and in a very business transaction tone said “I do love you, but I made my decision.” I was thinking of reaching out in about another month, maybe 6 weeks, with very light, non-emotional content just to see if he would be at a place where he’s interested in re-engaging. I would like the perspective of a DA here - how long after a breakup with someone you really loved did you find you would have been/were receptive to contact? Hey all! It’s been a while, 7 weeks almost exactly, and... all of you are correct that time does heal (some) things! Thank you all for your support and encouragement. I have come to see that the breakup was inevitable, as I didn’t even realize my needs weren’t being met, and that the LACK OF communicating issues/disagreements was a problem... I am at peace with the loss of the relationship... however, I have been ruminating about the things I don’t know about the night that “ensued” the breakup, when I was blackout drunk and my deeply wounded child came out (which, was the first time that ever happened, both the blacking our like that and wounded child fit, and I have little detail). My ex was able to communicate with me cordially regarding returning my things. He let me read him a closure letter I wrote when he dropped my things off. He Expressed that his being cold during the breakup, was unintentional, and he said he doesn’t know how to express himself and he apologized for that. We ended on business like and seemingly grateful terms. That being said, I keep replaying imaginary things from that night because, quite frankly he didn’t give me many details about my behavior, and I may or may not be imagining as it was or worse (truthfully... no memory) and I was wondering if we think my ex would be receptive to this, being that he seemed patient and caring enough to hear me out when he brought me my things: Via text: “Hey, I know we mutually acknowledged that there is no future for us during our last interaction, and that’s ok, but there’s some things I’m still wrestling with. Assuming that you genuinely did/do care about me as a person, can we please meet up and have an adult conversation about mine/our breakdowns in the relationship? I feel our post-break up interactions have been as cordial as can be, and I intend to treat this with the same integrity.”
|
|
|
Post by annieb on Jun 3, 2020 16:04:02 GMT
I’m sorry if this might have been covered already, I read as many threads as I could... My DA boyfriend broke up with me 2 weeks ago. It was very abrupt, and didn’t make sense to me at all until I discovered attachment theory. We were incredibly happy, never fought. Then it all made sense. I love him with my whole heart, and I actually feel my love for him strengthened once I discovered his DA attachment. It hurts that he must be hurting so very deep down. But anyway, I respect that he does not want to have any interaction with me. We are NC. In the breakup he was very cold, I asked if he really did love me, and in a very business transaction tone said “I do love you, but I made my decision.” I was thinking of reaching out in about another month, maybe 6 weeks, with very light, non-emotional content just to see if he would be at a place where he’s interested in re-engaging. I would like the perspective of a DA here - how long after a breakup with someone you really loved did you find you would have been/were receptive to contact? Hey all! It’s been a while, 7 weeks almost exactly, and... all of you are correct that time does heal (some) things! Thank you all for your support and encouragement. I have come to see that the breakup was inevitable, as I didn’t even realize my needs weren’t being met, and that the LACK OF communicating issues/disagreements was a problem... I am at peace with the loss of the relationship... however, I have been ruminating about the things I don’t know about the night that “ensued” the breakup, when I was blackout drunk and my deeply wounded child came out (which, was the first time that ever happened, both the blacking our like that and wounded child fit, and I have little detail). My ex was able to communicate with me cordially regarding returning my things. He let me read him a closure letter I wrote when he dropped my things off. He Expressed that his being cold during the breakup, was unintentional, and he said he doesn’t know how to express himself and he apologized for that. We ended on business like and seemingly grateful terms. That being said, I keep replaying imaginary things from that night because, quite frankly he didn’t give me many details about my behavior, and I may or may not be imagining as it was or worse (truthfully... no memory) and I was wondering if we think my ex would be receptive to this, being that he seemed patient and caring enough to hear me out when he brought me my things: Via text: “Hey, I know we mutually acknowledged that there is no future for us during our last interaction, and that’s ok, but there’s some things I’m still wrestling with. Assuming that you genuinely did/do care about me as a person, can we please meet up and have an adult conversation about mine/our breakdowns in the relationship? I feel our post-break up interactions have been as cordial as can be, and I intend to treat this with the same integrity.” I’m glad you’ve gone through the motions and are moving on. I think the text you are about to send him is about you and has very little do do with him, and is actually disrespectful to his space and needs. You are broken up, the property has been returned, there is no need to interact with each other any longer. The text you are about to send is a text for you. He cannot give you the answers you seek. Only you can give those answers. Respect his space and peace and respect your needs - tend to your own self esteem and confidence like you have been from here on out. Be glad that your inner child (albeit a little tipsy) came out when it did, because now your healing can start. And hint: he is not responsible for it nor can he even help you.
|
|
|
Post by mrob on Jun 3, 2020 16:15:11 GMT
|
|