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Post by joanneg on Sept 12, 2017 18:26:11 GMT
I have been on here for a few months speaking about the break up with my ex...him DA / me secure/AP
I haven't been on in a while as Ive been overseas working..and .. Ive met someone
We started interacting a few weeks ago.. in work...
we've spent the last week together.. he stayed with me.. making breakfast together, dinner together, dates, shopping together, picking me up from work..
things were different from previous DA - A LOT of intimate close conversations.. experiencing closeness.. deep conversations..sparks, chemistry
he told me on first date that he had abandonment issues from being a child and his mum leaving the family
I overlooked him as DA as the intimacy / close conversations were completely there..
we had a work event and I even pretended I didn't know him.. yet he proceeded to tell colleagues we'd been "seeing" each other..
then the last few days .. no plans being made
however the texting was CONSTANT .. all initiated by him
He is extremely good looking and does well with women ..
we had a chat today after work as i said to him id noticed he was being different
he told me he was "freaking out" - as my trip will be extended months now and may be made permanent ..
so its freaked him....
i swear he likes me... but now thats it...?
Im so confused
My guard has been up from my last ex and I didn't imagine it
Is he fearful avoidant or just a player? Do i just ignore him now?
I feel like he will message me again
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Post by jaleesa on Sept 12, 2017 20:05:58 GMT
Hi joanneg,
I'm sorry you're going through this, especially if everything seemed perfect at first. I wanted to tell you that I recognize his behavior since I've done this myself. I'm AP in general but whenever I interact with a secure or another AP, I shut down and become more FA. If I don't have to work hard for a relationship (this feels most familiar to me because of my childhood), I usually feel like something is off/no sparks OR I get scared and panicky when someone comes too close. That's probably the reason I always end up with avoidants - because it's safe, familiar and (unhealthy) sparks fly everywhere.
I don't know him and I don't know his reasons, but to me it seems like he's doing the same. I think he wants to be with you but he's scared. If I may ask: has he ever had professional help for his abandonment issues? This is really important for you guys in order to have a healthy relationship.
Take care!
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Post by joanneg on Sept 12, 2017 21:44:07 GMT
Thank you so much for replying
I would reallylike help on this because he didn't seem DA/FA at all... because of my last relationship I was looking for red flags.. I understand One with his mum ..but there was no others..also being so open in work..that's strange...
I'm mostly confused about the emotional conversations we had together ..I'm very emotional however he seemed very much in tune with his emotions..more than me..great conversation that would make us closer.. very meaningful deep chats about feelings...
His words were and reason to end things were "freaking out" after hearing I might be staying..at this point I didn't put any pressure on the relationship... none...
His gestures were lovely to me too... he asked to hold my hand in the street ... when he did I even remarked perhaps it was too soon in a jokey way... I'm trying to be secure... I think I've succeeded with this...
I feel ok which is the best thing...naturally upset but ok.. I'm surprised he's "freaked out" ...
He said he'd like to stay friends
How should I play it now?
Just ignore for good... I reckon it's the best bet...
Is he really FA/DA?
Or just not that into me?
If so how do you explain all the closeness/ conversation/affection/sweet gestures/activities/dinners/telling colleagues in work about us /waiting for me after work (in visible view of the office)
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Post by aisling on Sept 13, 2017 5:49:21 GMT
You've only known him for a few weeks, right? Generally, I would say that you can't tell much from any interactions that occur after less than a month of knowing someone-at least not enough to assume where they lay on the attachment spectrum. Some people are only looking for a fling, albeit a deeply connective one, and others think they're committing to something casual right from the start, but the bottom line is this: they're ok with high intensity situations or a lot of intimacy, even if they know they'll only last for a short time. I don't know if I would necessarily call that avoidant, because secure people can be really capable of having these types of high intensity connections without expecting long-term intimacy. I do think that's something us APs would definitely not be able to relate to... well, most of us:-). I know that as I'm typing it, I'm wondering how people do it, but I've known secure people who have had these types of relationships and done so ethically and don't see it as a matter of an inevitably hurtful situation. But they did go into these relationships with the expectation that they weren't heading towards a relationship.
Have you talked to him about what you're doing? I think it might be really helpful to get clear on what you want, and then come together with him to see what he wants. Seeing each other can mean a lot of things. If you can, try to use non-violent communication and not assume that he's avoidant or that he's playing you. I think these are exactly the kind of scenarios we can create in our head when we're activated. I know I've found myself jumping from a-->z whenever I've felt hurt and assumed the worst. He might be a player, or he might be terrified of intimacy, but at least you're giving the two of you the best shot at safe, open communication if you approach him with curiosity instead of fear or judgement. I hope that doesn't sound harsh, because I'm not trying to be, at all.
You seem pretty invested and attached to him. Maybe you can try to take some space for yourself and remind yourself that you're ok and try to focus on what makes you happy/being overseas (so cool!). I know it's hard. I know it feels really damn good to connect with someone, have intimate conversations, do lots of domestic stuff, and then bam, something happens to disrupt this experience that makes you feel like you're on a cloud 9... it's a beautiful thing to be able to connect, share, and be vulnerable with someone, esp when you didn't have it in your last relationship, but remember to stay true to you. Advocate for your needs, be receptive to his (even if they're not the same as yours), and remember that you get to chose what you will and will not accept. Personally, I would say something, because it's worth it just for the tiny amount of intimacy you had and your well-being (plus, it's always good to practice open communication!), but if he's not forthcoming, or you think he really is freaking out, I would ignore him and maybe take it more slowly with the next one!
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Post by raco on Sept 13, 2017 9:21:21 GMT
He has abandonment issues, he's scared of a relationship with you even though everything seems to be going well, he perceives your extended stay as bad news, his behavior changes suddenly but he doesn't bother talking about it, he switches from interacting with you in real life to interacting with you via text messages. So I doubt he's secure. And apparently he's not anxious-preoccupied.
But even if he's not avoidant, it seems to me that something is wrong enough not to go further with him.
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Post by joanneg on Sept 14, 2017 18:42:00 GMT
Thank you so much for the responses. I really appreciate it.
I would love more opinions. It helps so much.
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Post by joanneg on Oct 2, 2017 14:36:07 GMT
Can anyone shed any more light/opinion on this?
This guy continues to message me...
we had planned a date and then very last minute he came u with a silly excuse to "postpone" however has never re-scheduled..
he continues to text me extremely flirty however that is it...no scheduling to have f2f
surely this is avoidant behavior?
I dont know what to do.. I dont want to be rude and not text back and i do like him.. its just so frustrating..what is the point
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Post by howpredictable on Oct 2, 2017 16:55:55 GMT
JoanneG, We can avoid trying to figure out whether he's Avoidant (Ha!). Just look at what he is offering you: confusion, inconsistency, irregular self-serving communication, and last-minute flaking.
He doesn't seem to have what it takes to make you (or maybe anyone) happy.
Just cut him off.
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Post by joanneg on Oct 2, 2017 21:15:57 GMT
Lol
You are so right!!!
Thank you for being so blunt about it.... you made me laugh as well
I gotta cut the cord
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