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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 13:40:38 GMT
Any advice or support welcome.
Ive posted about my adjustment to HSP, and traveling. Plus some struggles as one with avoidant adaptation.
This weekend my boyfriend and I will travel to take care of the boat he recently purchased. It will be my first time at such an endeavor, and I am excited and nervous. It takes me some time to situate and become comfortable with new things. Ive never been responsible for a boat, and learning to sail. I can do it, it's just so brand new.
While there I will meet his mother, siblings, and nephews for the first time. They have arranged a gathering to welcome me. I am happy but also, uncomfortable because K am concerned about becoming somewhat overwhelmed or self conscious or something. I don't know exactly what I am feeling and I would like to figure that out so I know how to talk to myself to soothe it. I don't want to mess this up, by becoming uncomfortable.
I know this is very important to my boyfriend and I don't want to over share my feelings with him about it and get him stressed.
Of course I will be open but I feel like I could use some guidance. I haven't done this before. I just feel a lot of pressure internally about it.
Support welcome.
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Post by tnr9 on Aug 27, 2021 13:54:48 GMT
Any advice or support welcome. Ive posted about my adjustment to HSP, and traveling. Plus some struggles as one with avoidant adaptation. This weekend my boyfriend and I will travel to take care of the boat he recently purchased. It will be my first time at such an endeavor, and I am excited and nervous. It takes me some time to situate and become comfortable with new things. Ive never been responsible for a boat, and learning to sail. I can do it, it's just so brand new. While there I will meet his mother, siblings, and nephews for the first time. They have arranged a gathering to welcome me. I am happy but also, uncomfortable because K am concerned about becoming somewhat overwhelmed or self conscious or something. I don't know exactly what I am feeling and I would like to figure that out so I know how to talk to myself to soothe it. I don't want to mess this up, by becoming uncomfortable. I know this is very important to my boyfriend and I don't want to over share my feelings with him about it and get him stressed. Of course I will be open but I feel like I could use some guidance. I haven't done this before. I just feel a lot of pressure internally about it. Support welcome. I think it is completely understandable that you do not want to feel overwhelmed…is there a way to time cap it….just so you know at x time you can decompress.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 14:35:03 GMT
Any advice or support welcome. Ive posted about my adjustment to HSP, and traveling. Plus some struggles as one with avoidant adaptation. This weekend my boyfriend and I will travel to take care of the boat he recently purchased. It will be my first time at such an endeavor, and I am excited and nervous. It takes me some time to situate and become comfortable with new things. Ive never been responsible for a boat, and learning to sail. I can do it, it's just so brand new. While there I will meet his mother, siblings, and nephews for the first time. They have arranged a gathering to welcome me. I am happy but also, uncomfortable because K am concerned about becoming somewhat overwhelmed or self conscious or something. I don't know exactly what I am feeling and I would like to figure that out so I know how to talk to myself to soothe it. I don't want to mess this up, by becoming uncomfortable. I know this is very important to my boyfriend and I don't want to over share my feelings with him about it and get him stressed. Of course I will be open but I feel like I could use some guidance. I haven't done this before. I just feel a lot of pressure internally about it. Support welcome. I think it is completely understandable that you do not want to feel overwhelmed…is there a way to time cap it….just so you know at x time you can decompress. That's a very good thought. I think it will be *relatively short just based on how much we have to squeeze into this trip. I will talk to him about that. I think it's good if I tell him that I feel nervous and a little overwhelmed at the thought of all this, and that I might need some extra support or understanding. And then I need to make sure I express to him in an asking way If i start to feel that tension and shutting down inside of myself. What I mean is I think I need to just be ready to ask for a hug or something. Do the opposite of what I feel like doing. He is a "high gear" person and I am a "low gear" person and I have a hard time keeping up sometimes, physically and energetically and emotional/nervous system wise. Lets see if I can make sense. What I feel stress about is that accumulated dread that I feel during sustained newness. What I notice typically has happened in the past is like this: 1) I start to feel overwhelmed with sensory stuff and interpersonal expectations 2) I push this down and pull in just a bit to go into this place in my chest that's like another room. 3) I become an observer and don't want to interact 4) I notice that I don't feel any joy about what I should feel joy about and instead I feel a dull negativity 5) I notice that I feel no connection or affection, for my partner or anything else. I have thoughts like "Nothing means anything." 6) I feel stress about this because it's confusing and I feel like a failure or something. It's like an internal trap that sprung on me. 7) I become grumpy and not able to just be normal. I become a struggling passenger and I just want to be alone to somehow recover. So. I am aware of all that and have done a lot to soften the sensory stuff that contributes to the accumulating overwhelm when I have to travel or undertake something major and new. I understand cognitively that "deactivation" as it's called is a temporary nervous system phenomenon and that it will pass. In everyday life if it happens I have enough experience to ride it out and sometimes can actually "act as if" by drawing closer to him and it seems to reset me somehow, not instantly but quietly if I just maybe lay with him or talk to him or whatever. I guess it's just that this is a really important and exciting trip, he's so happy and has done so much to make this happen, I really appreciate it all and I know his heart is all in everything he's doing. I am more timid about all things but grow deeply appreciative and happy once I can get my feet wet in it, feel it out. I am actually worried that my challenges here will ruin this wonderful exciting trip. The last short trip we did, we planned and talked openly about how to support my difficulties with travel and overwhelm, and it went great. So the dialog is open. This is just a much bigger deal because of the importance and significance of meeting family and embarking on the boat chapter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 14:38:53 GMT
It's good that I should get plenty of time alone doing "domestic-y" stuff in the cabin while he does "mechanic-y" stuff. So we will be working on some thing together but separate, which is like being able to take a chill pill for me and self-regulate. I am actually excited about all this and extremely thankful but I don't know if that's coming across. Maybe I should actually articulate that to him and make sure that my quietness about it is just trying to prepare myself.
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Post by tnr9 on Aug 27, 2021 14:43:12 GMT
I think it is completely understandable that you do not want to feel overwhelmed…is there a way to time cap it….just so you know at x time you can decompress. That's a very good thought. I think it will be *relatively short just based on how much we have to squeeze into this trip. I will talk to him about that. I think it's good if I tell him that I feel nervous and a little overwhelmed at the thought of all this, and that I might need some extra support or understanding. And then I need to make sure I express to him in an asking way If i start to feel that tension and shutting down inside of myself. What I mean is I think I need to just be ready to ask for a hug or something. Do the opposite of what I feel like doing. He is a "high gear" person and I am a "low gear" person and I have a hard time keeping up sometimes, physically and energetically and emotional/nervous system wise. Lets see if I can make sense. What I feel stress about is that accumulated dread that I feel during sustained newness. What I notice typically has happened in the past is like this: 1) I start to feel overwhelmed with sensory stuff and interpersonal expectations 2) I push this down and pull in just a bit to go into this place in my chest that's like another room. 3) I become an observer and don't want to interact 4) I notice that I don't feel any joy about what I should feel joy about and instead I feel a dull negativity 5) I notice that I feel no connection or affection, for my partner or anything else. I have thoughts like "Nothing means anything." 6) I feel stress about this because it's confusing and I feel like a failure or something. It's like an internal trap that sprung on me. 7) I become grumpy and not able to just be normal. I become a struggling passenger and I just want to be alone to somehow recover. So. I am aware of all that and have done a lot to soften the sensory stuff that contributes to the accumulating overwhelm when I have to travel or undertake something major and new. I understand cognitively that "deactivation" as it's called is a temporary nervous system phenomenon and that it will pass. In everyday life if it happens I have enough experience to ride it out and sometimes can actually "act as if" by drawing closer to him and it seems to reset me somehow, not instantly but quietly if I just maybe lay with him or talk to him or whatever. I guess it's just that this is a really important and exciting trip, he's so happy and has done so much to make this happen, I really appreciate it all and I know his heart is all in everything he's doing. I am more timid about all things but grow deeply appreciative and happy once I can get my feet wet in it, feel it out. I am actually worried that my challenges here will ruin this wonderful exciting trip. The last short trip we did, we planned and talked openly about how to support my difficulties with travel and overwhelm, and it went great. So the dialog is open. This is just a much bigger deal because of the importance and significance of meeting family and embarking on the boat chapter. Yep….I get it…I am high gear as well when I am with people…..because I am extroverted….my mom is low gear because she tends to be more introverted. I used to take it very personal….but I have come to understand that she needs small amounts of time together followed by the opportunity to decompress in quiet. It isn’t me that she has the issue with…it is fine if I am there reading my iPad or working on a puzzle…but the high gear extroversion she can only take in doses. Did you ever determine your love languages? My mom is acts of service…mine is physical touch….so her way of showing love is cooking a meal and mine is giving hugs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 14:52:41 GMT
tnr9 that sounds very familiar. I too need extroversion in small doses. In fact I can be or seem very introverted but again it's in small doses. Not insincere at all- I DO like to connect. I do that more easily one on one in a quiet setting actually. So it's more intimate but less overwhelming for me. We are both somewhat "mixed bags" also- so it's really nice that the "parallel attention" doesn't feel alienating to him. I do in fact feel close to him when we are in parallel attention, and need that space when we share joint attention for a long time. Thanks for sharing your insight and self about all this, I appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 14:57:47 GMT
Oh and with my children I am very affectionate, but i would say that overall my love language is acts of service and maybe touch, but I think of touch as in it doesn't come naturally me to be very touchy feely but I have found I readily make myself available to that with him and really need it. So less like a dog licking your hand and more like a cat coming and sitting on you, is my energy around touch. Does that count for a love language? Maybe I should read more about that.
I do know that I express my deep love by taking care of physical needs and trying to ease a burden, showing nurture through practical help. That might be because I have needed to feel useful in order to be lovable. But also because I am very in tune to others physical needs and want to support and really be a partner.
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Post by anne12 on Aug 27, 2021 15:15:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 15:20:27 GMT
I will try this! Do you mean in preparation, or in response to stress when I get there?
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Post by anne12 on Aug 27, 2021 15:33:32 GMT
More tips
Ask questions. Use Friendly eyes exercise - before Use Welcome to the world exercise - before Write some good questions you can ask
Use the here and now exercise You can also use the warertank exercise (you have to practise beforehand so that your body gets used it) Or do the wuu Sound in the bathroom if you are feeling like you are going into freeze And wiggle your toes
Maybe you need a supportive touch from him - on your shoulder or ?
What kind of tools do you usely use as an avoidant/Secure ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 18:21:49 GMT
More tips Ask questions. Use Friendly eyes exercise - before Use Welcome to the world exercise - before Write some good questions you can ask Use the here and now exercise You can also use the warertank exercise (you have to practise beforehand so that your body gets used it) Or do the wuu Sound in the bathroom if you are feeling like you are going into freeze And wiggle your toes Maybe you need a supportive touch from him - on your shoulder or ? What kind of tools do you usely use as an avoidant/Secure ? Thank you for all this. I wonder what kinds of questions should I ask. I typically observe and I don't think I ask a lot of questions. Writing a list would be a good idea. Can you suggest something? I definitely think touch would help me. I would like him to hold my hand or put his hand on my leg. I think the tools I use are around communication. Being aware of what I need and what's going on and expressing that and asking for help around it. I believe that is more a sign of strength than weakness, these days although it does make me a little self conscious to feel needy, and to express what feels like neediness. I had a talk with my boyfriend a short while ago. I told him I am thinking of the trip and I am very excited and thankful and looking forward to it, but that I am nervous. I feel confident that we can do well with the sensory stuff, but I feel nervous about meeting his family and I feel nervous about the boat, moving it and being on the water on a boat that is new to us. Ive only been on boats with professionals, and dive masters and such. So this feels more vulnerable in terms of elements and open water. I told him I am nervous and a little worried about ruining the trip by becoming overwhelmed and shut down, and I explained that this happens incrementally so I wonder if we both can be sensitive to that and take a moment to slow down, or reconnect, hug, etc , if either of us notice I'm uncomfortable. He is getting to know and understand what his girl needs and I appreciate that a lot, I have got to make sure that I understand what he needs for a trip too. But since I have more struggle with the out there new adventures we are a little more focused on that. I will ask him though to make sure I understand how I can make this good. I'm sure he will say if I can just enjoy myself he will be happy. He said that we are going to make this a very "Introvert Friendly" experience and not to worry. So it does help to talk about it in preparation. This will be the second trip we have made with awareness to the challenges. It's. step up in intensity but maybe we will be fine. Ish.
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Post by alexandra on Aug 27, 2021 19:42:57 GMT
I also wouldn't worry too much if everything doesn't go perfectly, from the standpoint that you don't know them and a couple days isn't much. So since you don't know each other, you'll still need to get used to each other, get to know each other, build a connection over time, just like with anyone else. I've not been super comfortable with my boyfriend's family yet, not because there's any problem with them, it's culture shock stuff. He had the same thing with mine and he pointed out he's spent a lot more time with them and it took a little while for him to feel comfortable (which was not obvious to me until he shared that). It didn't happen in a weekend, and my family even loves him. His family likes me too, and are certainly trying to get to know me better. But as you already know, the best thing to do is keep communicating and tell your partner if you're not comfortable (while not saying anything offensive about his family of course ha ha) so there's no surprises or tension. Mine has not interjected himself in any way, nor should he, but he's been supportive privately and had no problem talking it out with me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 21:05:50 GMT
I also wouldn't worry too much if everything doesn't go perfectly, from the standpoint that you don't know them and a couple days isn't much. So since you don't know each other, you'll still need to get used to each other, get to know each other, build a connection over time, just like with anyone else. I've not been super comfortable with my boyfriend's family yet, not because there's any problem with them, it's culture shock stuff. He had the same thing with mine and he pointed out he's spent a lot more time with them and it took a little while for him to feel comfortable (which was not obvious to me until he shared that). It didn't happen in a weekend, and my family even loves him. His family likes me too, and are certainly trying to get to know me better. But as you already know, the best thing to do is keep communicating and tell your partner if you're not comfortable (while not saying anything offensive about his family of course ha ha) so there's no surprises or tension. Mine has not interjected himself in any way, nor should he, but he's been supportive privately and had no problem talking it out with me. Thank you for sharing your experience with this . We will have only a little time as we have to move on to the boat chores but that is a relief to me- dipping my toes in. It helps that his adult son has visited us 3 times while in our city, so I've made a new connection with him and it is warm and friendly. He automatically hugs me which feels great. He is close with his family back there so probably has given me a stamp of approval lol. My boyfriend feels certain his family will like me, but as you know it's about the not feeling awkward and uncomfortable. That and it's just a LOT for this little trip. But I'm getting pretty excited!
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Post by krolle on Aug 28, 2021 0:53:13 GMT
I'm very interested in this thread!! I'm hoping things go well for you. And am rooting for you.
Sailing is one of the best things I ever learned. I think it's a great pastime for mental health. Especially HSP and introverted nature....depending on conditions. Be careful if it's stormy the first time you go out.
What size boat is it? I find the only thing that bugs me about sailing with other ppl is if your living on the boat for an extended amount if time and it's small. When that happens I usually take the time to wander off on my own whenever we hit port. I don't think you'll have that problem if it's just a night or 2.
In terms of meeting his folks then I'd reiterate what the others said. It doesn't need to go perfect. Just good enough.
Try your best to enjoy the process. Sailing for me is a great time to practice being mindful. And see if you can get him to show you how to be useful. If that's part of your need it feels good to contribute. And there are lots of jobs that require 2 people.
Regarding the HSP thing. Try look at it as though you are expanding your comfort zone. And If possible see it as a positive. it's usually quiet and peaceful and you are with nature. Also bring your comfort kit. earplugs and whatever else you need.
...go below deck and talk to us if you need. I'll certainly be keeping an eye on this thread. Hopefully greeting a fellow sailor by Monday lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 6:41:59 GMT
Thank you krolle! That is so awesome you know the area I'm talking about. It's a 30' Catalina. I've been watching instructional videos to learn the basics and look forward to in person lessons- probably start next year, unless we can book something in the next couple months. We are going to fully inspect the boat and hopefully test it out. I'm pretty stoked. And everybody's right- it doesn't have to go perfect. I'm feeling more at ease. His son is going to meet up with us the last evening we are there and I really look forward to that. I'll keep you posted - I think there is a lot I can do to help, it will be fun to learn and be a team. I can see how sailing could be a very good fit for me. I can't wait to meet the boat!
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