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Post by tholemew on Sept 2, 2021 9:02:07 GMT
Do any of the older members remember an episode of the show "Lost in Space" called Canto's Mask? It was basically about the father of the family finding an ancient artifact (Canto's Mask) and when he put it on it took over his life and turned him against his family. Towards the end of the episode the father was going to kill his son, Will, by pushing him off a cliff, into a ravine.. Just as he was about to push him, Will begged Canto to remove the mask so he could see his father one more time, before dying. Canto agreed and removed the mask. Will was able to look into his fathers eyes and it was enough to remind his father who he was and in a moment of clarity he threw the mask into the ravine instead.
The reason I write this is because this it what it felt like to me when my ex DA girlfriend broke off with me. It was like she was one person one day and a completely different person the next. I see her everyday and it's like we never existed.
All I want to do is ask her to remove the mask so I can see her again, as she was. Unfortunately, I think the mask is there to stay.
Even though I totally understand the reasons behind it, it still hurts and I still miss her.
Hope that makes sense.
Hope it's OK to ramble here. It helps, momentarily.
Take care.
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Post by alexandra on Sept 2, 2021 9:23:17 GMT
It is okay to ramble here! And what you said makes sense.
But remember, who she is now is also part of her. She might have taken her mask off, not put it on.
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Post by tholemew on Sept 2, 2021 10:34:08 GMT
True.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 13:16:38 GMT
Something interesting about this... my boyfriend sometimes fails to really take in things that I communicate with him, if it doesn't align with his perspective or preference or priority. On my end, I will be trying to work out an adjustment we need to make in the relationship and on his end, he's just not taking it seriously or applying his own defense mechanisms to it. Then, if things hit a point where conflict arises his perspective is that I changed suddenly and he didn't or couldn't see it coming.
This kind of thing happens between people sometimes- sometimes it's indicative of a fatal flaw in communication between people, ineffective communication, resistance to taking it what's being communicated, etc. Sometimes it's something a couple can and do work through.
You've applied this little story to your feelings but it doesn't necessarily fit HER experience. I see it as a way of blaming her and romanticizing your own position. I also believe it's more likely that the breakdown happened over time, there were indications you may have been oblivious to, due to your own lens you view with. The reason I believe this is that a relationship that seems to end out of the blue isn't a secure relationship, it's typically some kind of insecure fantasy.
Maybe explore your own perspective to see if you have blind spots - doing this is a way to learn, empower yourself and build a capacity to choose and create a relationship that doesn't end like that.
Sorry you're going through it. But maybe you need a more realistic perspective and not just an emotional one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 14:22:42 GMT
Jeb's article mentions the problem of AP being too self centered to listen to their partner's emotional messages. The problem of all insecure styles is that they are all self centered because they are based in survival. AP's tend to romanticize their attachment dysfunction as very loving and open. Jeb has a very different take on that which is almost never addressed fully on this forum because the focus tends to be on the dysfunction of the partners they choose. I strongly encourage you to look into this if you want to process this breakup in a constructive way - for yourself. www.google.com/amp/s/jebkinnison.com/bad-boyfriends-the-book/type-anxious-preoccupied/%3famp
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 14:34:45 GMT
also wanted to add- there has been a VAST improvement over time as we have each begun to recognize and address our dysfunctional approach to relationship, and how ee communicate. Trust is essential and that is built over time between two people who are committed to growth. So these patterns are changeable in yourself if they do happen to exist, but you would be need to be willing to open to the possibility that you are part of the problem. That causes some huge backlash in people who are hurting but remains the proven avenue to better relationships.
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Post by tholemew on Sept 2, 2021 21:32:13 GMT
Hey introvert,
No doubt everything you say is spot on. I have certainly learnt some lessons about myself which I have been exploring and hopefully learning from.
I guess I was just trying to articulate the current feeling inside of me and this seemed like a pretty good analogy.
I'm certainly not blaming her, I'm sure I made plenty of mistakes and missed plenty of signs, I was completely oblivious to attachment styles before the breakup.
It's just hard to come to terms with the "change" in personality from one day to the next.
Appreciate the feedback.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 23:18:13 GMT
Hey introvert, No doubt everything you say is spot on. I have certainly learnt some lessons about myself which I have been exploring and hopefully learning from. I guess I was just trying to articulate the current feeling inside of me and this seemed like a pretty good analogy. I'm certainly not blaming her, I'm sure I made plenty of mistakes and missed plenty of signs, I was completely oblivious to attachment styles before the breakup. It's just hard to come to terms with the "change" in personality from one day to the next. Appreciate the feedback. I'm sorry you're going through the bewilderment and pain. I learned about attachment after a bout with a narcissist whom I learned later was diagnosed . While I didn't miss him after I finally left, at all... I did have a lot of confusion and despair about how I could have got it so wrong and not even seen what was going on with me to be able to even engage with him at all. Certainly there is a lot to point at in a person with a PD but it was my own holes that made it possible to get entangled. That is far far behind me know and I truly get what happened. But the discovery process was really painful and discouraging. But there's hope, you may already know that. I'm avoidant by the way... with a big chunk of secure I'd say judging by the mutual growth and stability in my current relationship (w anxious leaning man.) It's all painful. Both ends. I hope you have support and find peace.
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Post by tholemew on Sept 3, 2021 8:47:40 GMT
Thanks again introvert.
Gotta keep trying to learn, develop and move forward.
Better to have loved (felt the love and the pain and hopefully the growth) and lost, than never loved at all.
I hope so, anyway.
Hope your doing OK also.
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Post by anao on Sept 3, 2021 13:39:03 GMT
tholemew I went through something similar with my FA ex a month ago. For me that switch from loving to stone cold was very difficult to accept. But as many people say on this forum, it's also on us having missed signs, or choosing to not see them, or just being too patient in the hope that they'd come back and things would get better. Trying to understand the otehr person is one part, looking at our own behaviour and learn from the experience and try to do better next time is essential. Regardless, I am so sorry you are suffering. Feel the feelings and go through the 'tunnel'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 13:56:48 GMT
Thanks again introvert. Gotta keep trying to learn, develop and move forward. Better to have loved (felt the love and the pain and hopefully the growth) and lost, than never loved at all. I hope so, anyway. Hope your doing OK also. I'm well. It was years ago and I've had time to do a lot of reading and exploring on this problem and have pursued therapy at various points of my life, which has helped me out together the puzzle of myself and of life a bit. I came to the forum earlier this year to seek advice on how to communicate better in the relationship I'm in and have stayed and learned a lot more. It's a process. All of life is. anne12 has made some posts about healing a broken heart which you may find helpful.
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