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Post by selhurst1905 on Dec 21, 2022 7:06:41 GMT
Hi, literally 2 days since I discovered this forum, a forum all for attachment styles, I love it!! Feel like I can finally speak, post to other people that understand what I'm going through, what I am..... Previously If I have said to anyone 'Do you know about the 4 Attachment styles', they have looked at me blankly.... So anyhow, and not aiming to open a can of worms, I had never heard of Jeb Kinnison until the other day, his name was mentioned in the comments section on someone I follow with their attachment/relationship videos on YouTube etc . So any how without me naming who I have been following, what are peoples takes on some of the online relationship coaches etc? There are some I am not keen on at all, realised very early on a year or two back that they just basically prey on the vulnerable with their 'get you back with your ex ' books/courses /strategies etc, and many are not qualified or have no basis, basically just conmen in my eyes.....I The 3 I like are all, have been in the past insecurely attached, maybe why they are so passionate, all 3 seem to specialise in the attachments style counselling, advice etc. What's anyone's views?
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Post by selhurst1905 on Dec 21, 2022 10:01:05 GMT
What courses has anyone done, what courses can anyone recommend that have made a difference in improving their attachment styles. I am trying to get help here in Australia with a psychologist etc. for my own Issues at the moment to do with PTSD, anxiety, depression from my now former career.
This is what we call here 'Workcover' and is a gov Insurance approved, paid etc... but is not that easy...Is an acute shortage of mental health professionals, availability the last couple of years in Australia...
That is just my work, general life issues at the moment, let alone trying to find someone for Attachment styles/relationship issues, hence I believe anything I do or try to do in this field will come down to self-help, study....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 13:42:22 GMT
What courses has anyone done, what courses can anyone recommend that have made a difference in improving their attachment styles. I am trying to get help here in Australia with a psychologist etc. for my own Issues at the moment to do with PTSD, anxiety, depression from my now former career. This is what we call here 'Workcover' and is a gov Insurance approved, paid etc... but is not that easy...Is an acute shortage of mental health professionals, availability the last couple of years in Australia... That is just my work, general life issues at the moment, let alone trying to find someone for Attachment styles/relationship issues, hence I believe anything I do or try to do in this field will come down to self-help, study.... Thais Gibson has a personal development school and tons of YouTube videos. I have not done her school, some here have enrolled in that. I personally like her videos although I do have to slow down the speed as she speaks very quickly. I think she has good,accurate information. I don't know of other courses, though they may be out there...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 13:44:55 GMT
Jeb's insights have perhaps evolved a bit now that he's become a parent. He mentioned that in a post at some point. Diane Poole Heller is extremely knowledgeable and compassionate as a professional in the field, anne12 might have some good advice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 14:01:49 GMT
Oh wait Natalie Lue of Baggage Reclaim may have courses, she doesn't name attachment styles but is a strong coach for relationship insecurity. You can check out her website.
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Post by alexandra on Dec 21, 2022 19:54:33 GMT
I think you're approaching it the right way, and I completely agree that the best advice for how to work through this stuff seems to come from people who clearly worked through it at some point (earning secure after being insecure in the past). In addition to @introverttemporary 's suggestions, take a look at Jayson Gaddis. I believe he and his wife both earned secure after being stuck in the anxious-avoidant trap (best I can tell, prior to them working things out and getting married, he was FA and she was AP, and they both have master's degrees in psychology now). John Gottman and his institute are good for learning healthier relationship skills. Neil Strauss doesn't have courses, but he has some good insights in his later works and guest podcast interviews (he earned secure from FA in the years after he published his misguided pickup artist book, The Game). His book The Truth is effectively about his journey towards earning secure, though he doesn't say it in those terms and there's some gratuitous nudity in it lol.
Definitely avoid the sites with people leaning into gender roles and stereotypes (relationship issues are not limited to one gender). The toxic masculinity approach will not help you. Some of those get your ex back sites are geared towards helping men who are deeply insecure and act like doormats and scared of women to become more confident, which is an okay idea in theory, but in practice the approach is terrible. If they're not actually working on the insecurities and underlying reasons and instead are objectifying women and making the approach about a power play and control tactics, run away from that website or coach or whatever it is. Avoid anything to do with "red pill." A good site will also focus on the individual seeking advice and not be afraid to say, maybe you should work on yourself and accepting you are not compatible with this ex, instead of advising on different games you can play to get their attention back.
I'd also stay away from Teal Swan. She has a couple good things to say here and there but is a very questionable person overall.
I think it is a good rule of thumb to look into the people giving the advice a little bit if possible. Are they at a life stage you aspire to? That's a good sign. As an example, I wouldn't want to hire a dating coach who is chronically single and doesn't have healthy relationships themselves.
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Post by alexandra on Dec 21, 2022 20:05:56 GMT
And while I do advise finding a good professional to help if you can, because it is easier and faster to deal with things if you have a good guide who already knows the blueprint for exercises and such that will help you, I personally wasn't able to find the right expert in my area and worked through my issues largely using internet resources to create my own healing roadmap (I did it on hard mode, meaning, without professional guidance I effectively needed to recreate the wheel). I wasn't aware at the time that it was what I was doing, and I figured that all out retroactively, so it took a few years... but I instinctually knew when I stumbled on it that attachment issues etc. was where the answers to my questions lay and I kept at it, looking up resources and information and making big changes in my own life, and I eventually got to the emotional place I was seeking! So it is doable if that's the approach that works for you.
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Post by selhurst1905 on Dec 22, 2022 7:56:28 GMT
Hi Introvert,
Thais Gibson is one of the ones I have been following, I discovered her a few weeks ago and have watched an incredible amount of her videos, was really inspired and had many a lightbulb moment. I've now signed up to do some of the online courses with her Personal Development School, before signing up I could not find any negative feedback anywhere regarding her online videos on her channel or her course, I have found her pretty inspiring to be honest. I believe she said she was an FA previously, but don't hold me on that.
The others I like are Craig Kenneth (along with Margaret) a psychotherapist who talks, deals a lot on attachment videos, I like his channel as well, think he said he was an AP in the past.
The other one I like and follow a bit, watch his videos is Coach Court, he has also identified as an AP, he deals, specialises a lot in Attachment styles etc.
I have Diane Heller Poole's book 'The power of Attachment' here, just have to try and fit it in in reading it along with another book I've just started and along with the Personal Development school course I have just started. Also have another recommended book 'Attached'....
Think I could be busy for some time...
Regards!
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Post by alexandra on Dec 22, 2022 9:17:49 GMT
I haven't read Attached, but I've heard it's decent for anxious but lacking in its discussion of avoidant, and barely touches on FA at all. So the other sources you mentioned may end up being more worthwhile.
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Post by mrob on Dec 22, 2022 9:45:05 GMT
What courses has anyone done, what courses can anyone recommend that have made a difference in improving their attachment styles. I am trying to get help here in Australia with a psychologist etc. for my own Issues at the moment to do with PTSD, anxiety, depression from my now former career. This is what we call here 'Workcover' and is a gov Insurance approved, paid etc... but is not that easy...Is an acute shortage of mental health professionals, availability the last couple of years in Australia... That is just my work, general life issues at the moment, let alone trying to find someone for Attachment styles/relationship issues, hence I believe anything I do or try to do in this field will come down to self-help, study.... If you want to go down the therapy road, go to your GP and get a mental health plan together. This will give you ten free visits to a professional, or at least pay for some of the costs. Attachment theory is largely considered out of date by practitioners here, but I’ve not come across a more concise range that more than adequately describes the behaviour and motivation of insecurely attached people, myself included. Or, that there is a way out. That there is hope. Happy to chat from the dry state, if you like.
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Post by selhurst1905 on Dec 22, 2022 11:18:07 GMT
Hi mrob, I'm currently on WC, and trying to even get taken on by a psychologist/psychiatrist through my GP with referrals has been a complete joke. Not sure what state your in, but Victoria is stuffed. Hence me trying to do things about my attachment style and myself because I have no real faith in anyone here being able to do much or even have a knowledge or Interest. Why I am going down the path of self help via books, and online courses etc, hopefully this may change things...god know, I need to do something...
Regards
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Post by tnr9 on Dec 22, 2022 12:28:25 GMT
Hi mrob, I'm currently on WC, and trying to even get taken on by a psychologist/psychiatrist through my GP with referrals has been a complete joke. Not sure what state your in, but Victoria is stuffed. Hence me trying to do things about my attachment style and myself because I have no real faith in anyone here being able to do much or even have a knowledge or Interest. Why I am going down the path of self help via books, and online courses etc, hopefully this may change things...god know, I need to do something... Regards While you are looking into healing methodologies, you may want to check into somatic experiencing. That is the therapy that has most helped me as I was completely numb to my body. A lot of books in this genre speak to how trauma is stored in the body and how to recognize and work through that trauma. “The body keeps score” is a well known book in this area.
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Post by mrob on Dec 22, 2022 14:52:43 GMT
Hi mrob, I'm currently on WC, and trying to even get taken on by a psychologist/psychiatrist through my GP with referrals has been a complete joke. Not sure what state you’re in, but Victoria is stuffed. Hence me trying to do things about my attachment style and myself because I have no real faith in anyone here being able to do much or even have a knowledge or Interest. Why I am going down the path of self help via books, and online courses etc, hopefully this may change things...god know, I need to do something... Regards There are amazing practitioners out there, so don’t be too down on everything. I imagine they’d be busy in particular with traumatised flood affected people. I’m on the dry side of the country. One thing is for sure that you’ll get nothing for nothing. The 10 free consultations will go a fair way, but they won’t cover everything. You either want to get well, or you don’t, and that includes doing all the positive actions you’ve just mentioned. You’re on the right track. Stick with us.
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