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Post by moldavite on Jan 10, 2023 3:52:03 GMT
Hey all
I need some advice regarding a FA "situationship" I am currently in and how to understand/process the hot/cold cycle I am experiencing. I have anxious attachment style in relationships. I was not the one who pursued this person, he pursued me and quite intensely at first. Once I was also reciprocating the attention/contact we started to hook up. We never argue and get along great but after a recent night together the FA totally changed towards me. The contact dropped dramatically, he become cold and really indecisive about seeing me. It has made my anxious attachment characteristics kick in and I am constantly trying to make contact which I know is making it worse. I have also found out he went on a date with another female he had previously had a thing with. It all happened within a space of a week!
Can I get some advice on why this has happened I am internalising it as a flaw/fault of mine and why there has been a 360 in his behaviour as I feel mega gaslit
Thanks š
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Post by mrob on Jan 10, 2023 8:36:45 GMT
Thereās something amiss here. What have you left out? Was the relationship going up a notch? Had the expectations changed? I know with me, something has to change for that to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 14:59:52 GMT
This is the way it goes in causal situationships, when two people jump into bed without knowing each other or building any kind of connection beyond hanging out and having sex and being in the moment. Moments change. Flings don't always progress, and if they do it can tend to be hot cold ambiguity rather than a deepening relationship with shared values and a plan for the future. So basically what I'm saying is you get what you pay for when you get intimate with a virtual stranger, no need to understand much about that other than what you're seeing is normal for casual hookups between people who just met and did the flirt-hookup thing.
You're prone to self doubt and self blame and romanticizing casual because you're AP, and the thing to focus on is understanding why you do what you do. If you want to understand someone, get to know them before jumping into bed because all those sex hormones mask the reality of both of you... its mating, not dating. But I'd really recommend trying to understand yourself more by doing some deep dives into attachment theory examining your own beliefs and actions because then you will be able to date consciously and in a way that doesn't leave you feeling turned upside down.
I think we all here have spent plenty of time in the insecure cycles to empathize while also encouraging you to get healthy yourself rather than figure anyone else out. I understand you are confused and wondering what you did wrong. It's probably nothing about you so much as your insecure attachment led you into something totally ambiguous and casual and then expected some kind of something out of it. Normal for insecure dynamics, really par for the course.
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Post by alexandra on Jan 10, 2023 19:08:24 GMT
It's probably nothing about you so much as your insecure attachment led you into something totally ambiguous and casual and then expected some kind of something out of it. Normal for insecure dynamics, really par for the course. This is a great summary. Also, it sounds like the ex came back in the picture, which has nothing to do with you either. However, the way he chose to handle it was to pursue it because you two are in a situationship: no commitment. I agree that it is far more important to understand your role in this (not what you did to cause a change, but why you'd agree to something casual if you're looking for a more serious relationship in general), but I'm going to add a bit about the bigger context of the casual, uncommitted coupling. Usually the only reason people choose to get involved in this way is if they are emotionally unavailable to begin with. Insecure attachment style inherently means emotionally unavailable, because there's a struggle to trust either yourself or someone else or both, a struggle to be truly authentic and vulnerable, a struggle to communicate, and a struggle to have healthy boundaries for any insecure attachment style, AP, FA, and DA. Other reasons people choose casual can include they are temporarily unavailable because they are not over an ex, they are temporarily unavailable because they will be moving somewhere else or are only visiting and find it impractical to build a lasting connection but still want sex and companionship, they have a dealbreaker with the other person and know it's not what they're looking for but are willing to spend time enjoying sex and companionship, or they really want more than the other person is offering but hope if they stick around and build a sexual connection then they can change the other unavailable person's mind (this change generally never happens). In particular, FA have issues that lead to fear of a serious, mature, committed, long-term relationship. They get very overwhelmed by being too close or too far from someone and, if they are unaware about why and not working on getting more secure within themselves, then they will be seeking a relationship that does not scare them: one without any real commitment that allows them to have one foot out the door. One where they are not at all responsible for their partners' needs and have freedom to do whatever they want, but they still enjoy their partners' company, sex, validation, companionship. You cannot change this, because only they can decide if they are ready and want to change it for themselves. Sticking around for a casual situationship will not build a committed relationship, only a messier one as both people have feelings that get more invested but still lack the tools or ability to have a healthier, committed relationship. As you can see, none of this is about you beyond you choosing someone who isn't committed to you, isn't openly talking to you about progressing the relationship, and isn't building that commitment with you. For AP, who you choose and the behavior you're willing to accept is a very important part of the equation. Choosing someone unavailable will always end in you pushing down your own needs, trying to emotionally trust someone you can't which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy of repeating these types of dynamics, and getting your heart broken. The key is learning to trust yourself more, feeling good about yourself, not abandoning yourself or ignoring your own needs because you're afraid they're "too much" for someone else, and not accepting less than you want or deserve. Undoing past trauma and fear of abandonment is how you start to tackle your own AP style and begin to work on getting more secure, which naturally evolves so you are no longer attracted to situationships and similarly unavailable people. In this specific situation, disconnection hurts, but I'd highly recommend ending it. He may panic that you're leaving, but that's due to a fear of loss and loss of options rather than because you're right for each other. But this is absolutely not going to go anywhere except towards hot and cold chaos, pain, and drama. Most of us on this forum have been there at some point and have a lot of experience with this. And you can choose to go through it if you want, but getting some help with your own AP is where the answers lie, not banging your head against the wall hoping a mismatch in insecure attachment style pairing (anxious-avoidant trap) will change and get better when you've only been casual for a little while to begin with.
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Post by tnr9 on Jan 11, 2023 4:34:30 GMT
The coming on hot and heavy is due to the fact that you both know nothing about each other in the beginning. This allows both of you to āprojectā a fantasy on each other. As you learn about each other and become ārealā to each otherā¦this is when things cool off. That is why the beginning of any pairing is called the honeymoon phase. APs tend to want the honeymoon phase to continue indefinitely, which is unrealistic (but I have been thereā¦so I know how this goes). As the partner starts to pull away..cool off as it were, there is a panic that takes for the AP who fears abandonmentā¦.and this leads to clingy behaviors that become self fulfilling prophecies as the other insecure person starts to back further away.
The best advice is to start to be your own advocate and to leave a situation-ship that is not meeting your needs.
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