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Post by onastring on Dec 14, 2017 7:38:25 GMT
Has anyone been through going no contact and how did you get there? I’m trying to reach that point. I know I need to, I just can’t get myself there.
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Post by tnr9 on Dec 14, 2017 13:13:21 GMT
I did....it was painful.....daily dwelling. Are you AP in your attachment style? If so...don't try to do no contact on your own...it will feel excruciating. You need someone who can sit with you when you feel the urge to contact. Quick question...are you trying to do no contact to win your ex back? Be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 14:31:35 GMT
You need to do it one day at a time, to occupy yourself with other people and pursuits, anything, books, films, out dancing with friends, dates with people you might not feel attracted to, etc. One day, it will seem easier!
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Post by onastring on Dec 14, 2017 15:09:24 GMT
I’ll admit I am very vulnerable right now and that to be completely honest, if she were to respond to my no contact with sadness or wanting to know where I am, that would salve some of the pain. But I do know that getting back together would be a disaster, so I don’t want that. I am usually secure, but through this relationship have become AP. Having friends to support is a good idea, maybe I will ask them to send me encouragement if I txt them when I’m feeling tempted. One day at a time. One day at a time. Then one day I hope to be back to my secure self. Sigh 😰
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Post by satori on Dec 14, 2017 15:35:35 GMT
I have been no contact since mid May but mind you, I was thoroughly done with the relationship when I decided to walk from it. Actually it was easy to walk away because she had been so emotionally abusive to me over the last six and half years. I can not see myself going back to someone who lacks emotional maturity to be in a secure loving relationship. What really killed it is her not only her lack of emotional maturity but the complete lack of empathy that she displayed throughout our relationship.
To be honest, no contact was one of the best things I could have done for myself. It allowed me to solely focus in on my healing, rebuilding my self esteem, it allowed me to reconnect with the people that I love and love me, it allowed me to morn the loss of the relationship, despite that I was in it all by myself to begin with. I learned how to love myself and take better care of me. I took the time to go to therapy, learn all about attachment theory and learned everything I could about narcissism since my ex has very strong DA and narcissistic traits. What I've also learned that I took the abuse from her for so long was because I interpreted her emotional abuse from her as 'love', because of my own emotional attachment injuries that I encountered as a child while growing up in an alcoholic household. Abuse is not love!
Going no-contact empowers you in so many ways. First of all, it forces you to focus on yourself and not the relationship and that scared me to most. It allows you to look forward, live your life, to heal, and grow on YOUR terms. It allows you to look at yourself in an honest way that you may never have done before. It allows to you to find the answers that you have been looking for, if you search hard enough. It shows self respect and self love, which is something that our partners are not able to do.
I highly recommend the work from Brene Brown (shame & vulnerability), Alan Robarge (emotional attachment injuries), & Meredith Miller (healing from narcissistic abuse). Good luck and remember, you are not alone.
Cheers...
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Post by yasmin on Dec 14, 2017 16:08:55 GMT
No contact is easier for some personalities than others. I have friends who consistently use it when they break up. I'm personally not good at it. I think if Hitler messaged me I'd probably reply out of manners.
Im trying to be no contact with my ex right now. It's made harder because he always contacts me but I'm just trying to focus on remembering how unhappy the situation made me, but I do still reply if he contacts. In an ideal world he'd stop contacting but he always always always comes back.
I think not speaking does make it easier and allows you to move on quicker. Maybe take it one day at a time
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Post by onastring on Dec 14, 2017 16:48:42 GMT
satori, my situation is similar. 5 years with someone who I now realise and am trying to accept, is a narcissist. I have the brene brown book although haven’t read it yet and I’ll look at those Other links. I need to examine why I’m finding it so hard to go no contact with someone who was abusive. I’m aware of research showing we can become physically addicted to their personalities, the intermittent reinforcement they give us can give us dopamine hits or such like, and it does feel a bit like a drug addiction which is maybe why it’s so hard to break. But also perhaps I am perceiving her behaviour as love, which logically is crazy but emotionally compelling. Do you have other insights into what you have learned about recovering from narcissistic abuse?
Part of the difficulty is like you though Yasmin, I am too polite to ignore, which runs surprisingly deeply.
Do you tell your exes that you’re going no contact? I’m confused by the love I felt for her (even if I shall have to accept it wasn’t the real her) and ,crazily considering how she has treated me, don’t want to hurt her feelings. I know crazy, but honest.
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Post by yasmin on Dec 14, 2017 17:46:19 GMT
I don't think it's crazy at all onastring. You care about her so you don't want to hurt her.
I have had relationships before where the guy wasn't nice to me and I had no problem AT ALL telling him to take a hike and not contact me again. In this case I find it extremely difficult to do that because I know he's extremely insecure and I don't want him to feel rejected (even though he rejected me).
I wish he would just say goodbye nicely and then stop contacting me so I could detach and move on and right now my main worry / source of anxiety is how I ask him to leave me alone without harming him.
I wish I COULD just be his friend (I think he needs one badly!) but how do you be friends with someone who keeps kissing you / making it romantic and then telling you he doesn't want it? It's not possible
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Post by cate on Dec 14, 2017 18:22:20 GMT
I’m 6 weeks in with NC. It’s gotten easier. I know I will contact him again because I would like us to be friends. I miss our friendship. We were friends for a while before things changed. But I am holding off because I know there are still feelings and I need to keep processing.
It is hard. No two ways about it. The first few weeks especially. But it gets easier. I think NC is essential for healing. During that time you can cry and mope and vent and do what you need to get those feelings out of your system. Obviously this is not possible for everyone but I have found that NC with my ex has helped me to look at things from different perspectives. I can say I’m understanding - myself and him. And forgiving - myself and him.
I don’t think this would be possible with me being in contact with him because hat keeps those feelings present. So as hard as it’s been and I still miss him - it has been good for me. And ultimately I think good for any friendship we may have because when we reconnect I won’t have any lingering anger, resentment or bitterness. It will be a clean slate almost.
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Post by Jaeger on Dec 14, 2017 19:00:14 GMT
My no contact started in april last year, so I'm over a year and a half on. Complete NC wasn't an option since we have children together. After the emotions of a sudden break after 12 years had subsided, I found myself a lot happier than I had been in years. What might help is using the technological options you have.
Phone numbers, social media, there are many possibilities to block people from contacting you. If that isn't possible, limited no contact can be started by only allowing certain forms of communication about the subject matter. All else, you should not reply to. Limited NC is only necessary if you have children to take care of, in my humble opinion. Going limited NC for other reasons will only make it more difficult to move on. Especially if the ex partner tries to manipulate you even after break up, as is still happening in my case.
In my experience, gaining emotional clarity through NC makes it possible to decide whether or not to try to continue the relationship based on its merits alone, not on whatever fantasy situation we've created about the partner or the relationship in our minds. From that point on, I don't think many people will want to. I would recommend the NC and working on one's own pain and patterns, rather than focusing a lot of energy on why the avoidant did what they did.
In my opinion, that focus on the partner, their thoughts and feelings and explaining their behaviour without looking at one's own role in creating or continuing the dysfunctional situation you were in is a continuation of the reason why these relationships become problematic; though the relationship is over, you're still following the same pattern.
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Post by neosporin on Dec 15, 2017 3:14:51 GMT
I've gone through NC repeatedly and failed... either by reaching out to him or caving when he came sniffing around again. I'm back on the horse (for real, this time as I finally understand the extent of his damage) and I'm on day 4.
I have an app on my phone specifically for counting the days/keeping track of communication. It actually helps me because when I start to get frustrated I can see that it really hasn't been that long since we last spoke. Plus, hitting those milestones and seeing the days add up is super satisfying. Might not work for everyone though. If interested try searching your app store for a no contact calendar.
Reading posts on here helps a lot. Everyone's story reminds me of how painful and unsatisfying 95% of our interactions were.
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Post by 1wthlyf on Dec 16, 2017 13:43:30 GMT
I've learned that no contact is simply about white-knuckling through the desire to not reach out to them. It truly starts out moment-by-moment, then becomes day-by-day, then week-by-week, and so on. Building a healthy support network is very helpful, and finding places that you can post or write via journaling is helpful, too. It becomes a matter of understanding that no contact is being done for you, not them. Your inner resolve and stamina and self-love.
Once you reach that point, it gets easier. Mine took months and months, but I told myself each day that I was worth loving and healing.
I did it for almost a year, and then she reached out a couple weeks ago. . .
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Post by onastring on Dec 18, 2017 23:09:37 GMT
And what did you do? How did it go?
All your advice and stories are so helpful. One moment at a time is right. I haven’t managed to go all no contact yet- I’m not contacting her and she isn’t me either, but I haven’t blocked her anywhere, just reduced avenues. It’s not perfect but it’s a start in the right direction for healing myself. I’ll get there.
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Post by fatalcharm on Dec 19, 2017 1:07:08 GMT
I'm a month into my 3rd (and I'm pretty sure final) NC. The first time she reached out after 3 weeks and we gave it another chance (back then I didn't know anything about this avoidant thing). The second time I reached out after a month, but I told myself I would give it a month then reach out when I started. This time it feels final. I made up my mind that I am not going to reach out to her ever again, and I'm not sure what to do if she reaches out to me. I think what's different now is that I am finally accepting the reality that she is simply not capable of having a healthy relationship nor is she motivated to work on it. Being Christmas time doesn't make it any easier, especially since last year we spent Xmas together.
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