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Post by fiona on Aug 6, 2024 9:53:24 GMT
I posted on forum a few days ago about FAEx who had discarded me, left me in town 25 miles away and went to stonewall. Alexandra and anne12 gave me advice. Thankyou.Here’s my positive update. Firstly I see him definitely now as an ex. He fed me(in the moment) for almost a year what I wanted to hear. I believed it as a secure who latterly went a shade AP. No well person feeds you that level of commited, future promises then dumps you by physically leaving you then weak texts about being unable to stop hurting women etc etc, how lovely you are but they’re off etc. It’s unconscionable garbage. I trust myself Secondly he left stuff in abeyance. We’d paid a deposit on a holiday in two months, he was sending me three weeks ago vids of the place, how he wanted me to rest and be stress free( I had cared (also working in my job)for elderly parents . My son just got all clear of cancer a month ago? Not much support, in fact jealous reaction of my care of my boy?His behaviour sucks. He also left in abeyance my water boiler!! Who knew I’d be grateful to a water tank. When he deactivated he had arranged to have my water tank overhauled. Offered to do it as he had contacts.. I was paying.Yesterday repair guy phoned me, Ex hadn’t been in touch, he’d abdicated. I confirmed still needed repair.. actioned it on my own. It proved to me when they deactivate, there is no loyalty, empathy or follow through of any agreements. They cannot act adult, sort things through, confirm what’s happening. This was a hassle but it defined him for me. Re the water tank the repair guy contacted him and I received a bland WhatsApp from him.. ‘ hope all ok, I’m away at moment.. take care’ ?? I thought ok.. what do I need at this moment to do for myself. I phoned my son and a friend. Good feedback. Our relationship was not real. It was felt in the moment by him and taken as real by me as a securely attached. That needs to be said to everyone on this forum, particularly AP’s.. don’t bargain. Wean yourself off. They can’t follow through once the deactivation sets in on the promises made. It’s emotional plummeting, practical hassle and you do doubt your own values for a time. I cannot engage in helping this person, I’m in midlife, he’s unaware and with no real signs he wants to change. Think of time wasted, think of other options, think of the depth of the illusion. Think of yourself. It was a year of my time that I’ll never get back again. It was hope that was stifled on a whim. That’s not acceptable. Today I saw clearly that his behaviour was that of a Narc? There was no fallout from a years investment, he was ok and not much interested in me. He was casual.. disengaged. Such depth and then surface responses.. I’m not saying he’s a narcissist but how do you split their behavioural responses during this time. There is no invested memory of the relationship, no empathic compassion or looking for ways to fix or re-engage. No responsibility for awful behaviour. You are left with care of yourself.. that’s a relief, all told.
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Post by lovebunny on Aug 6, 2024 12:46:10 GMT
Yep. My last FA ex, we'd been together 3 years & lived together, was unrecognizable to me in the months during the breakup. It is extremely disorienting.
Good on you for recognizing it and taking care of yourself. You'll feel better faster than you think.
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 13:45:52 GMT
Yep. My last FA ex, we'd been together 3 years & lived together, was unrecognizable to me in the months during the breakup. It is extremely disorienting. Good on you for recognizing it and taking care of yourself. You'll feel better faster than you think. Yes.. I’m going to have a few ‘dark days of the soul’.. I’ll possibly drink more than I usually do and vent but it’s turning a corner. He is unrecognisable to me.. that is the main feeling. With that comes release. Did the original ever exist. Did I create him or did we jointly agree on his ideal. So true.. disorientating.
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Post by anne12 on Aug 6, 2024 13:46:16 GMT
jebkinnisonforum.com/post/26367/How Can You distinguice between a type A man and a type B man: An A person drains you, takes from your fridge, does not give anything to your life. It can take some time before You Will notise This. A B person fills Up your fridge, expands your life, sees the beauty in You and makes your life feel Better. You will not get challenged by an unhealthy man. (read the link)
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 13:55:11 GMT
Yep. My last FA ex, we'd been together 3 years & lived together, was unrecognizable to me in the months during the breakup. It is extremely disorienting. Good on you for recognizing it and taking care of yourself. You'll feel better faster than you think. Yes.. I’m going to have a few ‘dark days of the soul’.. I’ll possibly drink more than I usually do and vent but it’s turning a corner. He is unrecognisable to me.. that is the main feeling. With that comes release. Did the original ever exist. Did I create him or did we jointly agree on his ideal. So true.. disorientating.
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 14:00:15 GMT
jebkinnisonforum.com/post/26367/How Can You distinguice between a type A man and a type B man: An A person drains you, takes from your fridge, does not give anything to your life. It can take some time before You Will notise This. A B person fills Up your fridge, expands your life, sees the beauty in You and makes your life feel Better. You will not get challenged by an unhealthy man. Thanks Anne..problem is he seemed like a type B man.. I remember him bringing me gluten free crackers in bed with cheese, he did expand my life and caused joy.. but then he bailed and challenged all my hard won values. There is aping and pretending going on as well? These guys play the game initially then go. It takes a long time to know someone even if you’re savvy. I was savvy.
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Post by mrob on Aug 6, 2024 14:31:16 GMT
…and this has tenporarily turned into a Chump Lady type place. Something I’ve been dreading for the last 7 years, when I came here as a very confused FA wondering how the hell I could do so much damaging things over and again.
Make no mistake, I’m sorry you’ve been on the receiving end of this, and I’m sorry that you’ve had to pick up the pieces. The relationship that got me here saw my behaviour pull a secure person AP. This behaviour would do that if one hasn’t seen it before or who screwed up in a childhood where it was entirely normal.
For you, I can see right now how you have to feel that it wasn’t real, and that you can’t really think about what’s going on for him and move on effectively, but I really need to say that when I was unaware, it was all real. I wasn’t stringing someone along. The immediate lead up to and the deactivation was terrifying. Even when I knew what it was, after I got here, it was awful. In time, you may have compassion for him, you may not. He’s someone who has a condition he’s unaware of. Just know this stuff comes from way back in the subconscious. I never went into anything with the intention of hurting someone.
I’d be thanking my lucky stars that you can move on and know now what secure behaviour is.
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 15:08:34 GMT
…and this has tenporarily turned into a Chump Lady type place. Something I’ve been dreading for the last 7 years, when I came here as a very confused FA wondering how the hell I could do so much damaging things over and again. Make no mistake, I’m sorry you’ve been on the receiving end of this, and I’m sorry that you’ve had to pick up the pieces. The relationship that got me here saw my behaviour pull a secure person AP. This behaviour would do that if one hasn’t seen it before or who screwed up in a childhood where it was entirely normal. For you, I can see right now how you have to feel that it wasn’t real, and that you can’t really think about what’s going on for him and move on effectively, but I really need to say that when I was unaware, it was all real. I wasn’t stringing someone along. The immediate lead up to and the deactivation was terrifying. Even when I knew what it was, after I got here, it was awful. In time, you may have compassion for him, you may not. He’s someone who has a condition he’s unaware of. Just know this stuff comes from way back in the subconscious. I never went into anything with the intention of hurting someone. I’d be thanking my lucky stars that you can move on and know now what secure behaviour is. Read my previous posts then earn your comment to me? I don’t even know what’turning into ‘ Chump lady place’ means.. be specific.. don’t hide behind meme speak. I’m a Scot, British , be clear. I accept he felt and you felt it all - in’the moment’ but putting your dick in somebody’s body the day before you break up means I own my space to vent. Now when you’ve read my original post, under’ Fiona’. It’s under ‘Reeling but my Secure Attachment is holding the Fort’ about three days ago.. you can comment on my post. I get it, I know attachment, get off the pulpit the preacher wants it back… rein it in my friend until you know the facts.
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 15:08:44 GMT
…and this has tenporarily turned into a Chump Lady type place. Something I’ve been dreading for the last 7 years, when I came here as a very confused FA wondering how the hell I could do so much damaging things over and again. Make no mistake, I’m sorry you’ve been on the receiving end of this, and I’m sorry that you’ve had to pick up the pieces. The relationship that got me here saw my behaviour pull a secure person AP. This behaviour would do that if one hasn’t seen it before or who screwed up in a childhood where it was entirely normal. For you, I can see right now how you have to feel that it wasn’t real, and that you can’t really think about what’s going on for him and move on effectively, but I really need to say that when I was unaware, it was all real. I wasn’t stringing someone along. The immediate lead up to and the deactivation was terrifying. Even when I knew what it was, after I got here, it was awful. In time, you may have compassion for him, you may not. He’s someone who has a condition he’s unaware of. Just know this stuff comes from way back in the subconscious. I never went into anything with the intention of hurting someone. I’d be thanking my lucky stars that you can move on and know now what secure behaviour is. Read my previous posts then earn your comment to me? I don’t even know what’turning into ‘ Chump lady place’ means.. be specific.. don’t hide behind meme speak. I’m a Scot, British , be clear. I accept he felt and you felt it all - in’the moment’ but putting your dick in somebody’s body the day before you break up means I own my space to vent. Now when you’ve read my original post, under’ Fiona’. It’s under ‘Reeling but my Secure Attachment is holding the Fort’ about three days ago.. you can comment on my post. I get it, I know attachment, get off the pulpit the preacher wants it back… rein it in my friend until you know the facts.
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 15:18:09 GMT
My login name is fiona and I want it back!
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Post by micat1937 on Aug 6, 2024 16:04:30 GMT
I’m just going to check with moderators whether ‘chump lady’ comment is acceptable to new member whose posts you clearly didn’t read. No one’s is pigeon holing me for attention.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2024 18:49:28 GMT
mrob are you referring to the Chump Lady blog? I browse from time to time although I'm mostly focusing on other areas of personal growth and reflection. Good comment, here, self revealing as usual and reasonable to me...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2024 18:53:25 GMT
I’m just going to check with moderators whether ‘chump lady’ comment is acceptable to new member whose posts you clearly didn’t read. No one’s is pigeon holing me for attention. A quick check on Google in addition to your moderator query could enlighten you to what Chump Lady refers to. Not everyone's flavor, it is what it is.
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Post by tnr9 on Aug 6, 2024 22:12:49 GMT
I posted on forum a few days ago about FAEx who had discarded me, left me in town 25 miles away and went to stonewall. Alexandra and anne12 gave me advice. Thankyou.Here’s my positive update. Firstly I see him definitely now as an ex. He fed me(in the moment) for almost a year what I wanted to hear. I believed it as a secure who latterly went a shade AP. No well person feeds you that level of commited, future promises then dumps you by physically leaving you then weak texts about being unable to stop hurting women etc etc, how lovely you are but they’re off etc. It’s unconscionable garbage. I trust myself Secondly he left stuff in abeyance. We’d paid a deposit on a holiday in two months, he was sending me three weeks ago vids of the place, how he wanted me to rest and be stress free( I had cared (also working in my job)for elderly parents . My son just got all clear of cancer a month ago? Not much support, in fact jealous reaction of my care of my boy?His behaviour sucks. He also left in abeyance my water boiler!! Who knew I’d be grateful to a water tank. When he deactivated he had arranged to have my water tank overhauled. Offered to do it as he had contacts.. I was paying.Yesterday repair guy phoned me, Ex hadn’t been in touch, he’d abdicated. I confirmed still needed repair.. actioned it on my own. It proved to me when they deactivate, there is no loyalty, empathy or follow through of any agreements. They cannot act adult, sort things through, confirm what’s happening. This was a hassle but it defined him for me. Re the water tank the repair guy contacted him and I received a bland WhatsApp from him.. ‘ hope all ok, I’m away at moment.. take care’ ?? I thought ok.. what do I need at this moment to do for myself. I phoned my son and a friend. Good feedback. Our relationship was not real. It was felt in the moment by him and taken as real by me as a securely attached. That needs to be said to everyone on this forum, particularly AP’s.. don’t bargain. Wean yourself off. They can’t follow through once the deactivation sets in on the promises made. It’s emotional plummeting, practical hassle and you do doubt your own values for a time. I cannot engage in helping this person, I’m in midlife, he’s unaware and with no real signs he wants to change. Think of time wasted, think of other options, think of the depth of the illusion. Think of yourself. It was a year of my time that I’ll never get back again. It was hope that was stifled on a whim. That’s not acceptable. Today I saw clearly that his behaviour was that of a Narc? There was no fallout from a years investment, he was ok and not much interested in me. He was casual.. disengaged. Such depth and then surface responses.. I’m not saying he’s a narcissist but how do you split their behavioural responses during this time. There is no invested memory of the relationship, no empathic compassion or looking for ways to fix or re-engage. No responsibility for awful behaviour. You are left with care of yourself.. that’s a relief, all told. It is good to acknowledge you dated someone who was not a good partner….but blaming him for everything prevents the opportunity to learn from your part in the relationship. Over committing early in the relationship is definitely a red flag….words and actions that do not match I’d a red flag….the question that would be worth exploring is why did you stay with so many red flags? That is not a judgement….just something to percolate on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2024 0:21:28 GMT
It's interesting to see how different cultures throughout the world view these kinds of unhealthy dynamics.
I've read that in some Buddhist cultures, the concept of blaming another is foreign, because human relationships are the result of karmic interactions over lifetimes.
In other Buddhist cultures, the concept of karma explains these kinds of difficulties. The principle of cause and effect. There are external causes and conditions, which exist in the person regarded as the "problem". However, those external conditions are not at play in isolation, they are only half of the story. The other half is the internal causes and conditions, within the self. If these causes and conditions were absent, there would be no suffering when encountering the external factors in the other person.
I tend to align with this concept because it has born out in my own experience. There's not been a circumstance in which I found myself suffering from a relationship in which I didn't participate in my own unhealthy ways. It's really not difficult to see, once I get the ego out of the way. In fact, I don't resist the idea that I have made many miscalculations, held on to illusions, been (innocently, naively) dishonest with myself and others, and otherwise mucked up my life quite unintentionally. There isn't a human alive who hasn't, in some capacity. And, I myself find that the key to understanding and moving on, to do better next time, comes only from thoroughly understanding my own errors.
Western culture is heavily steeped in blame. Blame the other. Blame the self. One or the other. Tending toward black and white. I'm the victim! THEY are the Villain! I'm healthy, they aren't! It's very popular to go on and on about another person's faults, minimizing one's own. I think it's silly. Not that I haven't done it myself. It's what the ego likes to do! Still, I find it absurd and tiresome. I know better. If I catch myself doing it, I stop and get a grip on reality and take responsibility for the state of my life and my internal landscape. That's just me.
OP, hopefully you find a way to make sense of things so that things go better for you in the future.
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