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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 4:45:05 GMT
i was going on the OP’s statement that her partner is DA? is that not the case? so confusing, all of this that follows lol! Right! That was my point. Does anyone really know if he is DA? who knows, i’m bowing out of this one lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 4:47:34 GMT
Also, my experience dating APs is that the actual words do matter a LOT. They want reassurance and in a very specific way. Funnily enough, that signifies to me that it is less about the words while it does the opposite for you. [quote Example ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 5:44:12 GMT
haha, gosh i love this! It's really really good. I think everyone's right in their own way!
tgat, I have identified him as DA and me as avoidant. The question is --- is he really DA or am I just so AP that i'm seeing what he does as avoidant. That's also what mary asked. (I don't know how to tag people!)
cardinal, I think it makes great sense what you wrote. It also points to what everyone has said -- FOCUS ON YOURSELF AND BUILD SELF ESTEEM. And in the meantime, compromise on my exacting standards on how things should go, don't contact him so much, and truly believe that he loves me.
Re the communication bits, I'm with Mary on the part about AP needing very clear and specific communication and words. For example, I want to hear exactly what Jaeger typed, with very clear specific committed words. The message differs based on the words used - and this is a principle my partner lives by, so I know he's picking his words carefully, so as not to overpromise and underdeliver. APs do poorly with ambiguity and a lack of information, especially when they need their anxieties soothed. I'm trying to improve on that plus give the other person a break by being generous with my interpretation, but sometimes it is very hard and i lapse.
Jaeger, if any rships trigger anxiety and then I get out of it, I'll never be in one! when people pursue before i feel attracted to them, i become super avoidant. when i'm attracted to them, i tend to pick at it and find all sorts of things i don't like or can't get over. when i'm super attracted to them, i get AP. am I just picky, or unlucky, or self sabotaging max?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 6:01:24 GMT
haha, i was right there with you when you suggested seeing a therapist to answer the questions about yourself, one experienced with attachment theory. there are tests you can take online to get an idea where you land also. if he took one or saw a therapist, even better. it’s all out there for whoever wants to grow, for sure.
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 19, 2018 12:58:05 GMT
Jaeger, if any rships trigger anxiety and then I get out of it, I'll never be in one! when people pursue before i feel attracted to them, i become super avoidant. when i'm attracted to them, i tend to pick at it and find all sorts of things i don't like or can't get over. when i'm super attracted to them, i get AP. am I just picky, or unlucky, or self sabotaging max? Since I'm seeing you fluctuate quite rapidly in between different stances and the amount of readiness to act, I don't think any advice I would give you is likely to sway you here. I'm noticing a lot of things, including some reticence towards some of the points already made and I get the feeling you'll need more time and confirmation of the negative partner pattern you mentioned before you're at the point where you'd be ready to take those on board and make a decision either way. In the meantime, I would suggest starting some exploratory talks with a therapist to start to slowly make sense of all the questions that you have now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 15:52:50 GMT
Jaeger, if any rships trigger anxiety and then I get out of it, I'll never be in one! when people pursue before i feel attracted to them, i become super avoidant. when i'm attracted to them, i tend to pick at it and find all sorts of things i don't like or can't get over. when i'm super attracted to them, i get AP. am I just picky, or unlucky, or self sabotaging max? Since I'm seeing you fluctuate quite rapidly in between different stances and the amount of readiness to act, I don't think any advice I would give you is likely to sway you here. I'm noticing a lot of things, including some reticence towards some of the points already made and I get the feeling you'll need more time and confirmation of the negative partner pattern you mentioned before you're at the point where you'd be ready to take those on board and make a decision either way. In the meantime, I would suggest starting some exploratory talks with a therapist to start to slowly make sense of all the questions that you have now. Yes you’re quite right. If I already could make a decision, I would have and I wouldn’t be posting these questions to see what’s out there. I’m not asking for advice on what to do, I’m asking for peoples experiences and thoughts so that I get a feel for myself what is right for me. I’m not quite ready to make a decision, that much I know, and that’s why I’m trying to make sense of the questions I have through the board before I can get myself to a therapist.
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