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Post by goldilocks on Feb 25, 2018 22:09:29 GMT
Working on our own healing and behaviour is something we have a lot of influence over, working on others' behaviour is far less effective as we have very little influence. When there is drama, the first place to look is inside. Even if the other person did wrong, ask yourself "Why was I attracted to this person?" "Why did I stay so long?" "Why do I want someone back who did not make me happy?" A secure with an avoidant does not typically lead to drama. Generally, the avoidant offers what he or she can and the secure is either satisfied with it or if not ends the relationship. My first serious relationship was with a secure guy and at that point I was much more avoidant than today. We had a good relationship for a few years and then he told me that it was good, but not deep enough for him. He did ask me back after a while, but did not obsess and was cool when I declined. Now an unaware AP is going to take everything an avoidant does, personally. So he or she will feel hurt by the basic DAness yet at the same time be attracted to the avoidant style. Plus, the AP will continue to pursue the relationship even when they are not at all satisfied. Every conflict has the potential to turn into a traumatising trap. This video explains it well: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfiJnexg-U0
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Post by leavethelighton on Feb 26, 2018 1:17:09 GMT
"Now an unaware AP is going to take everything an avoidant does, personally. So he or she will feel hurt by the basic DAness yet at the same time be attracted to the avoidant style."
Wow, I can totally relate to having been through that experience from an AP side. I love the way you phrased that...
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Post by sorrynotsara on Feb 26, 2018 21:01:09 GMT
Thank you so much for sharing that video! I have been wanting to find some good resources on YouTube, but their search isn't the best if you don't know exactly what you're looking for. I'm so grateful to have been digitally introduced to Briana MacWilliam. She's got a fantastic perspective on all of this and really speaks my language.
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Post by gaynxious on Mar 2, 2018 23:00:37 GMT
Working on our own healing and behaviour is something we have a lot of influence over, working on others' behaviour is far less effective as we have very little influence. When there is drama, the first place to look is inside. Even if the other person did wrong, ask yourself "Why was I attracted to this person?" "Why did I stay so long?" "Why do I want someone back who did not make me happy?" A secure with an avoidant does not typically lead to drama. Generally, the avoidant offers what he or she can and the secure is either satisfied with it or if not ends the relationship. My first serious relationship was with a secure guy and at that point I was much more avoidant than today. We had a good relationship for a few years and then he told me that it was good, but not deep enough for him. He did ask me back after a while, but did not obsess and was cool when I declined. Now an unaware AP is going to take everything an avoidant does, personally. So he or she will feel hurt by the basic DAness yet at the same time be attracted to the avoidant style. Plus, the AP will continue to pursue the relationship even when they are not at all satisfied. Every conflict has the potential to turn into a traumatising trap. This video explains it well: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfiJnexg-U0Not entirely true. I have met at least three people I am convinced were secure before being in long term relationships with avoidants and were subsequently turned AP with a lot of drama in the relationship and yes future relationships. I'd say secures are usually resistant to being changed by their partners. I have met a few people that became anxious in a relationship with an avoidant but were ultimately able to leave and return to their normal secure attachment. I have yet to meet or even hear of a secure turned avoidant by an AP partner but that could be a disclosure bias. But I read somewhere it likely has to do with the fact that APs don't usually employ intermittent reinforcement whereas avoidants often do without realizing it and so can addict their partners to their behavior which is prolly why these specific secures were unable to end their relationships even though they weren't satisfied.
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Post by gaynxious on Mar 2, 2018 23:01:54 GMT
But I'm not trying to place the blame for drama on the avoidant. Even in the examples I am familiar with the drama seemed to come from the now anxious former secure.
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