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Post by bedlam71 on Mar 5, 2018 1:44:54 GMT
This question is for those who identify with being avoidant, commitment phobic and/or having a fear of intimacy. What books or other resources do you think have been helpful for you in gaining more self awareness and understanding of your partners?
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Post by nic on Mar 10, 2018 22:29:42 GMT
My favorite resource is a podcast that deals with attachment. Its called Journey of Attachment by Tracy Crossley. Ive gotten a lot out of it. She never suggests leaving your situation unless you are ready to. Instead she suggests working on yourself and not blaming the other person because we have a choice to stay or leave. www.tracycrossley.com/podcast/I also read the book Attached a few times.
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Post by yasmin on Mar 18, 2018 22:12:45 GMT
I just read a book called "Deeper Dating" which as an FA I found immensely healing and clarifying.
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Post by bedlam71 on Mar 19, 2018 21:21:44 GMT
Thank you for your suggestions!
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Post by ocarina on Mar 19, 2018 22:16:05 GMT
I just read a book called "Deeper Dating" which as an FA I found immensely healing and clarifying. Hi Yasmin and hope you're doing well - this book sounds as though it might be really useful for me too - thank you for the recommendation.
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Post by yasmin on Mar 20, 2018 20:18:42 GMT
I just read a book called "Deeper Dating" which as an FA I found immensely healing and clarifying. Hi Yasmin and hope you're doing well - this book sounds as though it might be really useful for me too - thank you for the recommendation. ocarina it would be a life changer for you too. It's basically about (in short) that we have a true nature, a deepest self where a lot of our most beautiful gifts lie but that these spaces in us are also our most vulnerable spots. The areas around which we have the most joy and the most pain. And often we have relationships (dating and otherwise) where our core nature is either ridiculed or taken advantage of or we are made to feel shame, so we learn to feel it's something to hide and so when we date we do so with a "false self". It's very difficult to explain, but for people like you and me who have a very predominant "false self" or the fantasy we think people want, it's about connecting to the real you and leading with that so you actually find real connection. It's been the most difficult book I have ever read, but I was crying from cover to cover and felt like I understood something really important about myself by the time I was finished. I think this book is good for anyone to read, but especially for people with attachment disorders, because this idea of "false self" is very closely linked to attachment theory. He also talks a lot about how people push away lovers they see as available and explains why. One thing he says, interestingly, is that he doesn't think there is any such thing as an attachment disorder because. according to him, EVERYONE is afraid of being vulnerable /abandoned / hurt - but the difference is that some people choose to overcome the fear and act in different ways. Which he says is all about loving yourself and being okay with being vulnerable. It's a different slant, but very, very helpful.
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Post by ocarina on Mar 20, 2018 21:07:38 GMT
That sounds wonderful Yasmin - I have ordered it, also sounds as though it's written for me - I am so very very over being the perfect woman, but I seem to be stuck in some kind of groove in that I have the knack of behaving in a way that pleases other people - especially men, so stuck that it's impossible to see where I really am any more.
Look forward to reading it and thank you again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 21:31:36 GMT
That sounds wonderful Yasmin - I have ordered it, also sounds as though it's written for me - I am so very very over being the perfect woman, but I seem to be stuck in some kind of groove in that I have the knack of behaving in a way that pleases other people - especially men, so stuck that it's impossible to see where I really am any more. Look forward to reading it and thank you again. getting out of this rut has been a huge step forward for me! it goes along with the "saying what i am thinking" thread i posted when i came here. my DA partner is also a huge pleaser- you'd think as avoidant it wouldn't be that way but it's about the insecurity, not being connected to the authentic self. Not being ok with being genuine. Not knowing who we are, even. How can you express what you aren't in touch with? it seems like i have been looking for the real me for many years, and i know i have made a lot of headway. But i think it's a life long process to peel back layers. it seems so. I agree this sounds like a good book for everyone yasmin, thank you for sharing.
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Post by leavethelighton on Mar 24, 2018 23:45:13 GMT
My favorite are books by Harville Hendrix and Helen Hunt (they're a married couple) such as "Getting The Love You Want" and really any of their books. This particular book puts you through a process of gaining a deeper understanding of why you are the way you are-- so if you are avoidant for instance, you gain a stronger sense of why, which I think is the first major step to identifying that you are even being avoidant and then starting to make other choices. But I've read 3 or 4 of their books now, and each one is very revelatory and life altering. They don't always use the language of attachment styles but they've taken the theory and done amazing things with it. They have a concept of "imago relationships" I find a bit odd, and they are a little conservative and religious (I'm totally not), but I just overlook that stuff and take the immense amount of usefulness in their books. They also have a lot of exercises you can work on with your partner; we haven't gone through it as a couple yet but when I look at their advice I can see how it would be very useful if a couple did.
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Post by ocarina on Mar 24, 2018 23:57:08 GMT
I just read a book called "Deeper Dating" which as an FA I found immensely healing and clarifying. I have the book and am delving into chapter one - the author suggests finding a "buddy" to work through it together and I wondered if anyone on here would be interested? Most of my ~IRL friends are either partnered or not close enough to fit the bill - feel free to PM me if you're keen - maybe an online discussion group or something would work.
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Post by yasmin on Mar 25, 2018 17:53:38 GMT
I just read a book called "Deeper Dating" which as an FA I found immensely healing and clarifying. I have the book and am delving into chapter one - the author suggests finding a "buddy" to work through it together and I wondered if anyone on here would be interested? Most of my ~IRL friends are either partnered or not close enough to fit the bill - feel free to PM me if you're keen - maybe an online discussion group or something would work. I'd be really happy Ocarina. I am thinking of working through exercises again too. PM me and we can swap details?
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