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Post by 8675309 on Oct 15, 2018 11:06:31 GMT
I had that problem later in a relationship, there were times when I started deactivating for long periods of time for the first time. I was very calm, as if I didn't care anymore which was unfamiliar. I was ready to move on with no regret. I had no idea if it was avoidance kicking in or if I became more secure and simply tired of him. When I'm not into someone though, I'm not into someone. My attachment style kicks in when I get attached. I might not proceed with things, talk myself out of it but I HAVE TO be into them first. Im a secure with a bit of DA according to tests and I do the deactivate thing when Im losing that loving feeling. I 'check out' of the relationship and we split up. While I feel bad I lost my loving feeling because usually is a good guy and it will hurt him... but no regret either.
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Post by suburbanwizard on Oct 16, 2018 23:40:24 GMT
I dont know what its like to be DA/FA as Im a secure but do have a bit of DA in me. Im dealing with a DA so its brought me here. I know on the first date there is no 'spark' in any way. I actually usually know instantly upon meeting them. Ive even tried a second date because it was a nice man to see in case it 'was me'. It was just not there even though they may have checked all the boxes as someone great. I connect with limited men and Im secure so its not just an avoidance thing. While I know you are working on things it just can very well be, its just not there. No more, no less. Maybe not 'over think' so much so to speak and go with the flow dating again while still keeping aware of you working on things. Is this because they are not attractive, or are you talking about some sort of intangible "spark"?
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Post by 8675309 on Oct 17, 2018 0:46:02 GMT
I dont know what its like to be DA/FA as Im a secure but do have a bit of DA in me. Im dealing with a DA so its brought me here. I know on the first date there is no 'spark' in any way. I actually usually know instantly upon meeting them. Ive even tried a second date because it was a nice man to see in case it 'was me'. It was just not there even though they may have checked all the boxes as someone great. I connect with limited men and Im secure so its not just an avoidance thing. While I know you are working on things it just can very well be, its just not there. No more, no less. Maybe not 'over think' so much so to speak and go with the flow dating again while still keeping aware of you working on things. Is this because they are not attractive, or are you talking about some sort of intangible "spark"? Usually has nothing to do with looks.(Well at times it does I suppose) Its instinctual I guess, I just know it. A vibe I get.
For me its instant or its a friend/acquaintance that grew on me over time. Im talking months usually when it was a grow on me thing. Could I possibly had one grow on me if he became a friend, probably, but hes not a friend so its not happening.
Now the instant attractions fizzled quickly at times just like it has with those the grew on me. I tried them on and they didn't fit me anymore or I didn't fit them.
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Post by suburbanwizard on Oct 17, 2018 0:52:51 GMT
Is this because they are not attractive, or are you talking about some sort of intangible "spark"? Usually has nothing to do with looks.(Well at times it does I suppose) Its instinctual I guess, I just know it. A vibe I get.
For me its instant or its a friend/acquaintance that grew on me over time. Im talking months usually when it was a grow on me thing. Could I possibly had one grow on me if he became a friend, probably, but hes not a friend so its not happening.
Now the instant attractions fizzled quickly at times just like it has with those the grew on me. I tried them on and they didn't fit me anymore or I didn't fit them.
Interesting. Are you unable to having any sexual attraction with people that don't give the vibe? Like its black and white?
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Post by 8675309 on Oct 17, 2018 13:27:51 GMT
Usually has nothing to do with looks.(Well at times it does I suppose) Its instinctual I guess, I just know it. A vibe I get.
For me its instant or its a friend/acquaintance that grew on me over time. Im talking months usually when it was a grow on me thing. Could I possibly had one grow on me if he became a friend, probably, but hes not a friend so its not happening.
Now the instant attractions fizzled quickly at times just like it has with those the grew on me. I tried them on and they didn't fit me anymore or I didn't fit them.
Interesting. Are you unable to having any sexual attraction with people that don't give the vibe? Like its black and white? Its only 'black and white' for those I just went on a date with. I have grown into the vibe with those that grew on me, the friend/acquaintance. Im not going to become friends with the guy I went on a date with to grow there months from now.
That said, Ive gone on dates with some guys I would be friends with because they were so cool and interesting. The cool and interesting is not the vibe I feel for attraction though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 4:58:02 GMT
For me it's the vibe between me and them, the vibe beats deactivation. But there are some factors at play. First, I'm painfully aware of the chemistry between me and other people, how our 'energy' flows together. And this includes every person I interact with, not just potential romantic partners. I'm just naturally tuned into that. Second of all, I'm FA and have a history of being attracted to DAs. According to many, this pairing is repellent — true enough, I don't recall anything ever starting with them, it just dies out when one of us fucks up (sans my current situation which has been pending for a while) — but even so there has always been a strong attraction towards these guys that is separate from my attachment style, forcing me to work on my avoidance along the way just to get closer to them. It's mutual, and it's always them who are attracted to me first or I wouldn't bother otherwise. Third, I don't recall fully deactivating with them, gotten pretty close but I tend to push myself through it. It's because we never really get far enough for them to cross my strongest deactivation threshold: my main issue is physical intimacy, while theirs is emotional intimacy. We have to go through the latter first in order to reach the former. And it has never happened, although I find it easier to work through the emotional stuff than they do. God forbid we make it through that and physical intimacy becomes imminent, that's when I know my avoidance will kick in FULL GEAR. I'll most likely begin to shake out of fear while my soul leaves my body and I end up in a lifelong vegetative state. Or something. (Hmm, come to think of it, probably the reason I'm attracted to emotionally unavailable men is because I know it's very hard for them to get through the emotional stuff, and that's how I know I'd never have to face the biggest monster of them all: physical intimacy.) So I think this all depends on the individuals involved. The more you know yourself and your patterns, the better you'll be able to tell the difference between deactivation vs not being into someone. Other than that: I think it's common for FAs to deactivate if we think the other person is not interested enough [...] But I often also have difficulty if someone seems too eager, [...] they don't even know me yet and are falling for an idea of me or just badly want a relationship. Can totally relate. I've never been interested in someone who is not interested in me. And I also get very suspicious when someone likes me right off the bat, like... do you even know me bro? I dont know what its like to be DA/FA as Im a secure but do have a bit of DA in me. Im dealing with a DA so its brought me here. I know on the first date there is no 'spark' in any way. I actually usually know instantly upon meeting them. Ive even tried a second date because it was a nice man to see in case it 'was me'. It was just not there even though they may have checked all the boxes as someone great. I connect with limited men and Im secure so its not just an avoidance thing. While I know you are working on things it just can very well be, its just not there. No more, no less. Maybe not 'over think' so much so to speak and go with the flow dating again while still keeping aware of you working on things. Ooh, this is interesting. It reminds me, with the current DA guy I'm interested in, there was totally NO SPARKS at first. I even tested it and he was very unresponsive to my gestures (which almost always work on any guy, DA or not). I actually got peeved... "how dare he not think of me as alluring?" Can you say dejected? But eventually, it turned out that he was just so repressed that he had been blocking his attraction, so to speak (even to himself, it was buried that deep). Because when it awakened, it was so strong that I could almost feel his lust in the air. It was the same for me. I'd feel tiny bits of attraction but I'd stomp on them as quickly as I could. Until one day, I just let loose and it was almost painful how strongly I felt. Our chemistry now is undeniable, that it feels electric accidentally coming to contact with his skin, let alone when it's intentional touching. We are both highly aware of each other physically and are careful to not get too close or pull any maneuvers that would send us both into No Man's Land. IDK what to do.
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Post by happyidiot on Nov 5, 2018 7:34:27 GMT
Ooh, this is interesting. It reminds me, with the current DA guy I'm interested in, there was totally NO SPARKS at first. I even tested it and he was very unresponsive to my gestures (which almost always work on any guy, DA or not). I actually got peeved... "how dare he not think of me as alluring?" Can you say dejected? But eventually, it turned out that he was just so repressed that he had been blocking his attraction, so to speak (even to himself, it was buried that deep). Because when it awakened, it was so strong that I could almost feel his lust in the air. It was the same for me. I'd feel tiny bits of attraction but I'd stomp on them as quickly as I could. Until one day, I just let loose and it was almost painful how strongly I felt. Our chemistry now is undeniable, that it feels electric accidentally coming to contact with his skin, let alone when it's intentional touching. We are both highly aware of each other physically and are careful to not get too close or pull any maneuvers that would send us both into No Man's Land. IDK what to do. I've been there too. Thanks for your detailed reply. I've just been taking a break from the forum and will probably go back to taking a break. I don't have any helpful advice, my instinct is to say "run" though, for whatever that's worth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 5:19:47 GMT
I've been there too. Thanks for your detailed reply. I've just been taking a break from the forum and will probably go back to taking a break. I don't have any helpful advice, my instinct is to say "run" though, for whatever that's worth. I agree. He has deactivated so many times, I closed up my "channels of attraction" and stopped caring. Run, indeed.
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