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Post by tnr9 on Oct 24, 2018 3:24:52 GMT
I hate admitting to feelings of jealousy..it feels weak....it feels regressed..it feels selfish..it feels ugly...but it also feels true....and tonight I felt it. I so wanted to push it away..pretend I was above it, beyond it..but it kept floating up...so I knew I needed to sit with it....allow my feelings towards it to soften and realize that hiding behind layers of "she gets to do this with B" and "she is so much better" was actually a plea for me to acknowledge the pain of the loss.....not to sugar coat it or pretend like it was a mile away..but to speak to the loneliness of the space left in the absence of B. I wasn't falling apart, I knew I could go on...but I truly miss him....I miss laying on his chest feeling it rise and fall, watching Netflix movies and listening to his laughter, I miss going out grocery shopping and picking out different flavors of ice cream to try, I miss going to the park, indulging in PDA, I miss spending time with his family, hearing stories from when B was little, I miss the "I love you too" text messages, I miss watching football games, rooting for his favorite team...there is so much I miss....so of course I am jealous of any girl who gets to enjoy those things.....so I an trying to be caring towards myself..to let the grief wash over me...to not try to push it down or numb it....but to own it and know that even in those moments...I will be ok.
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Post by lilyg on Oct 24, 2018 7:59:46 GMT
Oh honey, I'm so sorry. Let it flow like a stream. It takes a lot of courage to be sad. With grieving comes increased awareness: of what's truly important to you. If you allow sadness to teach you, it actually will resolve faster than any effort to fight it. tnr9 , you will be ok <3 You'll be able to create millions of very happy new memories.
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Post by faithopelove on Oct 24, 2018 10:56:00 GMT
I hate admitting to feelings of jealousy..it feels weak....it feels regressed..it feels selfish..it feels ugly...but it also feels true....and tonight I felt it. I so wanted to push it away..pretend I was above it, beyond it..but it kept floating up...so I knew I needed to sit with it....allow my feelings towards it to soften and realize that hiding behind layers of "she gets to do this with B" and "she is so much better" was actually a plea for me to acknowledge the pain of the loss.....not to sugar coat it or pretend like it was a mile away..but to speak to the loneliness of the space left in the absence of B. I wasn't falling apart, I knew I could go on...but I truly miss him....I miss laying on his chest feeling it rise and fall, watching Netflix movies and listening to his laughter, I miss going out grocery shopping and picking out different flavors of ice cream to try, I miss going to the park, indulging in PDA, I miss spending time with his family, hearing stories from when B was little, I miss the "I love you too" text messages, I miss watching football games, rooting for his favorite team...there is so much I miss....so of course I am jealous of any girl who gets to enjoy those things.....so I an trying to be caring towards myself..to let the grief wash over me...to not try to push it down or numb it....but to own it and know that even in those moments...I will be ok. Sorry for what you’re going through 😞 I still miss it all too. So much. Physically hurts. Hugs 💐
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Post by 8675309 on Oct 24, 2018 11:10:12 GMT
I have some of those feelings as well. Its hard and Im a secure type. I see this as more a human thing over an attachment thing. Our attachments comes into play on how we react to these feeling like an AP who may still chase them down instead of just feeling the feelings and not chase letting go. These feelings are ok you just cant let them swallow you.
I still have them even though I know what ever gal comes after me wont have him either. No gal will until he works on himself.
Its also hard because of any of the gals hes dated I probably get him the most and he doesn't see it.
Ive fully accepted the reality of him but it still hurts. I just take it one day at a time and keep doing me. He will always have a soft spot in my heart but in time my feelings will go away for him. It certainly been harder to let him go than it has for others in my life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 11:43:22 GMT
Is he really worth it though?
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Post by tnr9 on Oct 24, 2018 12:10:28 GMT
Is he really worth it though? Legitimate question Christie.....my immediate response is yes (with tears because of fear of being judged for that answer) probably because I am in a very protective space. I understand what you are driving at....and I will admit, I am not in a space to look at him objectively...which I a know drives many posters on this board crazy. I am still a work in progress it seems.
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Post by faithopelove on Oct 24, 2018 12:21:52 GMT
Is he really worth it though? Legitimate question Christie.....my immediate response is yes (with tears because of fear of being judged for that answer) probably because I am in a very protective space. I understand what you are driving at....and I will admit, I am not in a space to look at him objectively...which I a know drives many posters on this board crazy. I am still a work in progress it seems. I get it. I get it, and I also feel my ex is worth it. And I also feel I understand him more than any other girl has bothered to try and understand him. If he wanted to date- I think he’d reach out to me. He stays alone in deep DA mode yet I still want to reach out. As an AP, the silence preoccupies my thoughts. I hate the negative way things were after our last meet up. The way he must view me. I want things to at least feel ok, even if we’re not back together. I’m living in activation mode lately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 14:35:11 GMT
Is he really worth it though? Legitimate question Christie.....my immediate response is yes (with tears because of fear of being judged for that answer) probably because I am in a very protective space. I understand what you are driving at....and I will admit, I am not in a space to look at him objectively...which I a know drives many posters on this board crazy. I am still a work in progress it seems. I understand how you feel; when I was in my anxious state he was God's sent gift, he was the only one, worth anything, there was no one like him. When times were rough and we were caught up in a toxic dynamic I spent SO much time pinning after him. I WASTED so much time, I wasted ME, my energy, my happiness and for what? It had no benefits for me, for him either. He was taking care of himself, growing and I was regressing. There were time we were on a break/"just friends" kind of thing- the exact same thing we hear here over and over again. I wanted to be his friend because "he's my best friend and I can't lose him"- or so I explained it to myself. In reality, I was hoping that if I stayed close it either somehow magically prevented him from finding someone else, or it'd be better to know if he did, it'd "help me" . It was my pure masochism preventing me from moving on. I was just waiting and feeding my anxiety. Now things are more or less good and stable, I do love, I will always love him and I'll do anything for him even if we part our ways but I regret that time very much. It... HE was and is not worth it. A relationship which he doesn't want is not worth my life nor my mental health. The girl is not better than you, he doesn't like her more than you, she's just an another girl, maybe he thinks it could work out this time, or maybe he doesn't think at all. He's searching, trying to fill a void, it's about him not you or her. So is just a guy that any girl can have worth it? No. It won't work out again, he'll go on another search, he'll do the same things with new girls... are they so special to him? No. It's replaceable. There are other guys out there, secure guys, guys that can love and be grateful for your love. Someone who will give you something that isn't replaceable. You might miss it because you're still pinning after him. Is he worth it? Is pinning after him worth your happiness? It's not. Think of it as an exchange... what is/was he giving you exactly? Is it irreplaceable? Is there nothing better? Is it worth the price you're paying?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 18:45:46 GMT
what you're missing in the grand scheme is love and commitment from a man who has the capacity to understand, nurture, and support you in ways that will help you be your best self, your free, natural, beautiful self.
That's the man you're missing, and you just haven't let him yet. he's worth waiting for, he's worth sacrificing this less-than, inadequate entanglement for.
he's worth growing for, he's the one to look for.
you miss the man who's waiting further down the line for you and he'll be glad to see you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 18:54:42 GMT
and P.S. i'm sorry i jumped the fence this one time into the support area, i hope it's ok and i won't abuse the boundary, i promise. i just wanted to remind you that you are worthy of better than you've ever known.
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Post by tnr9 on Oct 24, 2018 20:19:40 GMT
and P.S. i'm sorry i jumped the fence this one time into the support area, i hope it's ok and i won't abuse the boundary, i promise. i just wanted to remind you that you are worthy of better than you've ever known. Thank you Juniper..I did not mind the crossing at all..it is good to have you back and I am grateful for your feedback and reminder to look away from the rear view window and be excited for the future. Still working on that.🙂
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Post by tnr9 on Oct 24, 2018 20:21:29 GMT
So many good comments and great reminders...I have more to say but am in meetings so I will return when I am able.
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Post by blueunif on Oct 24, 2018 20:39:06 GMT
I hate admitting to feelings of jealousy..it feels weak....it feels regressed..it feels selfish..it feels ugly...but it also feels true....and tonight I felt it. I so wanted to push it away..pretend I was above it, beyond it..but it kept floating up...so I knew I needed to sit with it....allow my feelings towards it to soften and realize that hiding behind layers of "she gets to do this with B" and "she is so much better" was actually a plea for me to acknowledge the pain of the loss.....not to sugar coat it or pretend like it was a mile away..but to speak to the loneliness of the space left in the absence of B. I wasn't falling apart, I knew I could go on...but I truly miss him....I miss laying on his chest feeling it rise and fall, watching Netflix movies and listening to his laughter, I miss going out grocery shopping and picking out different flavors of ice cream to try, I miss going to the park, indulging in PDA, I miss spending time with his family, hearing stories from when B was little, I miss the "I love you too" text messages, I miss watching football games, rooting for his favorite team...there is so much I miss....so of course I am jealous of any girl who gets to enjoy those things.....so I an trying to be caring towards myself..to let the grief wash over me...to not try to push it down or numb it....but to own it and know that even in those moments...I will be ok. That really sucks. Jealousy is such a hard place to be and I really feel for you. It really hurts and can be all-consuming. When you have a spot of mammalian brain, try to remember that jealousy is based on a belief that you yourself are lacking something. And with all the hard work you've done on yourself, you do have much more than you think /are feeling at the moment. Well done for sitting with it! That in itself is a big deal. Every day will be different. Hugs.
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Post by epicgum on Oct 25, 2018 18:46:50 GMT
Not directly related to what you are talking about, but a recent insight that I had was that "jealousy is about abandonment--being forsaken by the ones we love, envy is about desire--wanting what we do not have". Maybe it is worth parsing your feelings trying to figure what it is you are feeling. Sometimes naming and understanding things (feelings) can make us less intimidated and help to give us mastery over them.
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Post by tnr9 on Oct 25, 2018 22:34:30 GMT
So I wanted to come back to this post after taking a night off of it.....I was feeling resistance and wanted to honor my need to gain a bit more distance from the raw feelings. To clarify...B is not dating the girl in question...but I have suspected he likes her for some time. When I saw him last week....he mentioned going with her (and some other of her friends) to a winery tour that she had won in a raffle last year. He said she was a really nice person and he found her very attractive, but he has not pursued it because he does not want to hurt anyone else the way he hurt me. He also said that she has become his rock in the singles community. After he had left..that is when my mind started piecing a story together of how she would succeed where I had failed, how she was more important to B because he did not want to hurt her and how she could hang out with him in a way that was a struggle for me due to my feelings for him. I could picture in my head the two of them slowly getting closer and closer in a way that would lead to a good outcome..or so my mind imagined...that is what led to the feelings that I described as "jealousy"...but to your point epicgum, may be both jealousy and envy. I do so appreciate the advice from everyone.
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