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Post by hannah99 on Jun 22, 2019 7:50:31 GMT
My ex and I have broken up three times. The first, 6 months in, shortly after we'd said we loved each other for the first time and had a lovely time together. I accepted it and left things and a few days later he came back.
The second, 2 years in, as we were viewing houses to move in together. I protested this time but after I gave up he came back again.
The third and final time came a year later at a point when I felt we'd finally formed a healthy relationship that suited us both despite our very different ways of showing love and being intimate. We lived together, were moving forward and felt very close and then out if the blue...he left.
It's very much over but I'm just trying to make sense of it all..is this dismissive attachment? Or something else?
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Post by anne12 on Jun 22, 2019 9:30:55 GMT
Could be a mix. AP can do this when things are going Well. They Think logning is love. They can be uncomftable getting their needs Met. Could also be some FA maybe.
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Post by hannah99 on Jun 22, 2019 9:38:36 GMT
Sorry, what does ap and fa mean?
The other thing that made me think he is dismissive is he always says 'I'm fine alone, I don't need anyone.'
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Post by mamut on Jun 22, 2019 10:19:47 GMT
hannah99 AP= anxious preoccupied, FA= fearful avoidant, DA= dismissive avoidant. I've been told that all the back and forth is more likely to be done by an FA. Attachment theory is a good tool to make sense of what's going on, but know that it's just that when it comes to the other person. Use it to understand him, but mostly use it to understand yourself. I've found tremendous help and have been working on myself a lot more effectively since I've started reading about it. It has helped me understand my now ex, but it doesn't change anything. He needs to do his work to, and I can't help him. Even if I was willing to help and he was open to it (which is a long shot in most cases), it would take a very long time of me putting up with his hot n cold behavior before we could ever experience a change, and on top of that I'd be terrified almost daily that he'd up and go again. It's not worth it. What Attachment Style do you fall under? Oh, also know that it's more like a spectrum.
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Post by anne12 on Jun 22, 2019 10:45:54 GMT
You have been Living together for how long ? The FA gets triggered by the contact on the instinktive level - alarm. Fight/flight. The AP looses interest when the other person becomes fully available. He could have some DA also - yes. The attatchmentsystem kicks in after 1-2 years in when the partner is being percived as permanent and things are getting serious.
If he ended the relationship out of nowhere like and in and off switch IT can Be some desorganised / trauma.
If he moved away more slow,, IT can Be AP or DA.
He could have been unsatisfied about something in the relationship But dident have the ability to speak Up or there could Be something Else going in in his life ?
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Post by hannah99 on Jun 22, 2019 15:32:38 GMT
I was really shocked when he broke up with me. He'd been more attentive and loving than ever...
I have an anxious attachment I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 16:30:57 GMT
As DA I have always withdrawn within the relationship before I leave, attempted to voice my unhappiness. There is no sudden shift. It is a slow death for me until I get to the point I have given up or found my escape. The sudden switch speaks more to FA , IMHO.
I can't even pretend it's good when I'm ready to go, and I don't think any partner has ever had that impression or been surprised.
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Post by tnr9 on Jun 23, 2019 2:22:44 GMT
My brother broke up with his girlfriend after 5 years...he said it was no longer exciting. Now he goes on tinder dates.
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Post by hannah99 on Jun 23, 2019 7:00:59 GMT
This is interesting. I really thought he was da as he shows so many other characteristics. For example, he prides himself on his independence, becomes cold and cruel when we try to discuss feelings, liked to keep his friends and family separate. Etc.
He's not coming back this time. He's already with someone else and is moving VERY fast...they're moving in together.
It's all just very confusing for me, cause as I say it felt very out of the blue, and usually I'm very sensitive to my partners pulling away.
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Post by alexandra on Jun 23, 2019 14:57:01 GMT
hannah99, I'm sorry you're going through this. This has happened to me (but without the moving on to someone else immediately). I was AP (now earned secure), and this specifically happened with FA partners. I agree with @sherry, with DA men, I was never totally blindsided. They'd express there was some issue, even if it was poorly, but also since I was AP I'd usually pick up on it and ask and get an honest answer. But often as AP I'd blame myself and just try harder in response. FA, it would feel like a switch flipped because they may use people-pleasing to avoid conflict as a defense mechanism or even be dissociated from their feelings... so it was more like, everything is fine!, then emotionally vomiting later on and it feeling like a huge shock. Yet still without being able to explain how they're feeling, even once they take action. (I used to think it was unwilling to explain, but at this point I truly believe they often don't actually know because they haven't worked through their attachment injury and are disconnected from themselves.) DA haven't come back, either, and were difficult to maintain a friendship with after if that's what we'd decided to try to do. They'd never initiate and it would fade off. FA often want to at least be friends with me, even if they don't come back romantically. But my long-term FA ex did cycle back romantically as well.
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Post by alexandra on Jun 23, 2019 15:00:37 GMT
He's not coming back this time. He's already with someone else and is moving VERY fast...they're moving in together. Be very careful with reading into this. It may easily mean nothing (he's idealizing and projecting, maybe she's more distant than you and triggering him anxious, moving too fast / possibly love bombing is usually a dysfunctional symptom if either partner has a history if insecure attachment and may fizzle out suddenly -- if he comes back to you for attention and emotional regulation / ego propping afterwards, don't fall for it).
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Post by anne12 on Jun 23, 2019 15:53:08 GMT
When we no longer fear being abandoned, our intimacy may increase. He may already have decided on the unconscious level to leave you, so he might have been more relaxed and being himself, being enthusiastic and light as never before in the relationship. People often have more than One attatchmentstyle jebkinnisonforum.com/thread/1188/4-attatchment-style-decription-test
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Post by hannah99 on Jun 23, 2019 17:07:12 GMT
He showed lots of da traits throught relationship and these had improved massively. He was being loving, we were making future plans...that always seems to be the pattern, two steps forward, three steps back.
I think I'm ap, so usually I preempt these things but I was completely shocked.
I need to get into my head it's done. Right now I'd take him back which I know is really foolish.
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Post by anne12 on Jun 23, 2019 17:32:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 0:03:02 GMT
This is interesting. I really thought he was da as he shows so many other characteristics. For example, he prides himself on his independence, becomes cold and cruel when we try to discuss feelings, liked to keep his friends and family separate. Etc. He's not coming back this time. He's already with someone else and is moving VERY fast...they're moving in together. It's all just very confusing for me, cause as I say it felt very out of the blue, and usually I'm very sensitive to my partners pulling away. For someone who "doesn't need anyone" he sure moves fast, one relationship to the next with not even a pause? Adding the leaving when everything is good or reached a new level of closeness, I would guess FA for attachment style, which is only a guess. Could have some other stuff going on there too, it's pretty unstable behavior.
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