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Post by hannah99 on Sept 1, 2019 7:14:08 GMT
So, following conversations with my therapist, I think in FA rather than AP. One issue I have is starting relationships that seemed doomed from the off and using the inappropriate element as protection. I say things like, this can't go anywhere, this is only temporary, it will have to be casual, I won't fall in love...
For example, men that are moving to a different city soon, big age gaps, people in relationships etc.
After a wobble last week, I've started feeling really healthy and loving single life. It's been 8 months.
I met someone on a night out and we exchanged numbers. He's lovely and I plan to see him again. BUT he's not long out of a relationship (he ended it) and he's 7 years younger than me. Should I stop things before they start? Is this me choosing an inappropriate love interest again?
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Post by mrob on Sept 1, 2019 9:19:09 GMT
That’s very interesting. I’ve been in something like that recently, and there’s always something that brushes up against my attachment style. This time I’ve found myself anxious and had to quieten myself down. There’s no doubt that if I want to go forward in a healthy way, then this is not the way to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 12:06:48 GMT
How about being friends. Taking things slow. Allowing things to happen naturally.
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Post by hannah99 on Sept 2, 2019 19:44:50 GMT
Yeah for sure. I just dunno if I should even consider this one...
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Post by alexandra on Sept 2, 2019 20:10:57 GMT
Yeah for sure. I just dunno if I should even consider this one... Do you feel secure and healed enough with yourself, single or not, to be ready to date? I like the friends-first suggestion. Get to know the person before making assumptions or projections.
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Post by serenity on Sept 2, 2019 21:29:01 GMT
Yeah for sure. I just dunno if I should even consider this one... I would personally find it way too soon to judge. You said he seemed like a nice person... he might make a good friend, or a decent social or work connection.... but it would take more time before knowing if he is a good love match. People can usually hide their attachment and mental health issues for several months before you get to see whats behind the mask. My most secure and loving relationship was with my now deceased partner. He was 10 years younger than me, and we loved one another for over 15 years.
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Post by ocarina on Sept 2, 2019 21:41:21 GMT
Can't advise you re this one - but I have had FA tendencies in the past and almost all my partners were totally inappropriate - I think this avoided intimacy on my part, meant I never became attached to them. Most were somehow less than me in terms of education,looks, or something - this was not the case with my most recent relationship and it was a real joy to feel I was with someone who I felt was an equal partner (well in some ways at least!)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 21:46:25 GMT
My perspective is, listen to your intuition. If you know you choose inappropriate partners as a pattern and you don't feel comfortable, don't proceed. You are the only one here who has met him in person and there is much more to a person than their biographic data.
The more I have listened to my intuition , the stronger and more reliable it has become.
I think it's a lot of pressure to tell you to give this a chance. Go with your feelings. There is no fire, you owe no one anything, and you have nothing to lose by honoring your doubt.
I have never felt bad about a good thing- never had to question something that really is good for me.
Conversely, the things I persisted with when I had niggling doubts, when I wasn't comfortable- those were lessons that didn't kill me but ultimately taught me- i know. I do know. I know what feels right to me and what doesn't. I know how to say no, and let that be ok. I don't have to give everyone a chance. This is my life and I do know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 22:18:05 GMT
It doesn't have to be about the guy. It could be just not the right thing for you right now, in your process and gaining your foundation of self. I just say, don't push yourself. You've sacrificed yourself in relationship to others a long time- and now is as good a time as any to really check in with yourself and listen to what you really want, need, and feel deep down.
Nobody else's ideas matter as much as your own here. Not mine, not anyone else's. It's your time to just do you with no outside expectations.
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Post by alexandra on Sept 2, 2019 22:33:42 GMT
I have never felt bad about a good thing- never had to question something that really is good for me. Conversely, the things I persisted with when I had niggling doubts, when I wasn't comfortable- those were lessons that didn't kill me but ultimately taught me- i know. I do know. I know what feels right to me and what doesn't. I agree with your second point, that when you had real doubts it was important to pay attention. But I'm not sure your first point applies as universally to anxious-leaning insecure types early in the healing process. There's so much projection, layers of insecurity and distrust of self, that there can be a very big gap between thinking you're hearing yourself and actually just running through your patterns. What I mean is, because your anxiety isn't getting kicked up, you absolutely may feel intuitive doubt about a good partner that's not actually about the partner at all but is about yourself. That may mean, if (general you) your intuition is saying no, that you're not ready for a healthy relationship, which is legitimate too. But it will sound like your intuition doubts are about the (good) partner, when it's actually about yourself, or your positive feelings are because your attachment system is triggered anxious by a (bad) partner -- but it feels familiar and good. So that's why I think it's really important for insecure types who struggle with distrust of self (whether AP or anxious-leaning FA) to get comfortable enough and confident enough with themselves first, because it can be hard to distinguish between if it is good or bad partner / relationship intuition or if it's attachment projection, instead of taking the good/bad feeling at complete face value. That doesn't mean not dating while going through the process, which it may sound like I'm saying. It just means taking things a bit slow and get to know the person if the intuition isn't alarm bells saying, this is a crappy person and partner. I'm not sure if this is different for DA because that style has some issues with self but it's not usually with trusting self, you'd know that better, and I suspect your perspective is good for lower-anxiety or secure styles.
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Post by alexandra on Sept 2, 2019 22:34:16 GMT
It doesn't have to be about the guy. It could be just not the right thing for you right now, in your process and gaining your foundation of self. I just say, don't push yourself. We were still typing at the same time, and now I think we're agreeing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 22:45:41 GMT
It doesn't have to be about the guy. It could be just not the right thing for you right now, in your process and gaining your foundation of self. I just say, don't push yourself. We were still typing at the same time, and now I think we're agreeing Yes, I think so. My point is more to do with what feels right, and less to do with the person. When in doubt, a pause and letting go of outside expectations and opinions can be a good thing, in order to discover what the next right step is. Life is more than "the wrong or right partner" and can be also about the "right time" "right motivation" "right understanding" "right stage of healing" and so forth. There are many good or bad potential partners- and there is also the individual process and timing and growth stage. Pushing along to try out a potential relationship is not always what the doctor ordered- sometimes finding contentment in one's own self discovery can be just the thing one needs.
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Post by averyleigh on Sept 3, 2019 11:27:45 GMT
So, following conversations with my therapist, I think in FA rather than AP. One issue I have is starting relationships that seemed doomed from the off and using the inappropriate element as protection. I say things like, this can't go anywhere, this is only temporary, it will have to be casual, I won't fall in love... For example, men that are moving to a different city soon, big age gaps, people in relationships etc. After a wobble last week, I've started feeling really healthy and loving single life. It's been 8 months. I met someone on a night out and we exchanged numbers. He's lovely and I plan to see him again. BUT he's not long out of a relationship (he ended it) and he's 7 years younger than me. Should I stop things before they start? Is this me choosing an inappropriate love interest again? Hi hannah99, I always try to trust my initial instincts. The fact that you had to ask tells me you noticed red flags, maybe you haven’t processed it yet into words but I believe your receptors went off...you felt something was concerning otherwise you wouldn’t have posted your concern. I only ask others when I already know the answer. And your post told us more about your view on him and the situation than you think. If you have doubts and something feels familiar (in a bad way), listen to your body and thoughts. You already know.
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Post by 8675309 on Sept 3, 2019 11:57:25 GMT
Id just like to add, its usually better to date someone at least 6 months out of a relationship, particularly a long term one. If it was a recent break up take it very slow.
For me personally it takes me 6 months to a year to even date again. I need 'my life back' and clear their energy out of my life before I can really give myself again. After my 5 year it took me about 2 years to date again.
7 years is really not that much of an age gap so I would not sweat that.
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Post by anne12 on Sept 3, 2019 12:01:01 GMT
What are your dealbreakers ? What kind of relationship do You want ? Have You made a lovevision ? Where are you in your life, where is he in his life ? Do You think You know enough about the person to Be able to make a decision yet ? Is it a loving choise for yourself to end things with this guy now ? If you have got some desorganised or ambivalent attatchment style your body can cheat on you. This means, that it can be difficult to feel and trust your own intuition, your own bodysensations or if you are dissociated, you possibly can't feel anything. Do you know how to regulate your nerveussystem ? Can you let a friend who you trust meet this guy, if you carry on with the dating process ? What does your therapist say ? Are you ready to date ? Is he ready to date y(and commit) yet? jebkinnison.boards.net/thread/1927/dating-tips-attatchment-styles-phases
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