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Post by tnr9 on Feb 7, 2020 13:19:30 GMT
It is approaching 3 years since B broke up with me and I feel like I am still incredibly stuck in wanting him back while he is progressing forward with a new relationship. The other day I was watching a webinar about the Disc and I kept thinking that B is a C and if only I had done some things differently....same thing happens here when I read posts about FAs. I am in therapy and am trying to address the underlying wounds...but I am just so surprised how what was my shortest relationship has impacted me on such a deep level.....so much more then the 2 narcs I dated. I am not mad at myself....just so very curious.
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Post by Helsbells on Feb 7, 2020 15:15:20 GMT
It is approaching 3 years since B broke up with me and I feel like I am still incredibly stuck in wanting him back while he is progressing forward with a new relationship. The other day I was watching a webinar about the Disc and I kept thinking that B is a C and if only I had done some things differently....same thing happens here when I read posts about FAs. I am in therapy and am trying to address the underlying wounds...but I am just so surprised how what was my shortest relationship has impacted me on such a deep level.....so much more then the 2 narcs I dated. I am not mad at myself....just so very curious. I hear ya sister. Same hear for me. My ex FA is still confusing me and it so sad. He has been paying money into my account so I dont get thru the winter and it's to help with heating costs. And I got a beautiful gift thru the post the other day it was all hand made soaps body washes hair treatments face masks the full pamper gear. Then a text from him saying please pamper yourself, this is my way off saying so sorry for hurting you. It's so sad and really messes with your deep core emotions. I cant even be angry with him as it's not his fault. It's just so sad and frustrating how much this shit keeps playing out in our adult lives. He will be 50 in 4 yrs and from what I gather this has played out in all his relationships. I'm just trying to focus on myself and not repeat the cycle as mrob says it takes two to tango. I cant go thru another cycle. I truly dont believe you did anything wrong nor could you have changed the outcome. It will continue to play out for B just like it has for my ex if left untreated. Do I hear your in a new relationship. That is very good to hear. Sending you a big hug from across the pond. Xx
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Post by annieb on Feb 7, 2020 17:03:55 GMT
It is approaching 3 years since B broke up with me and I feel like I am still incredibly stuck in wanting him back while he is progressing forward with a new relationship. The other day I was watching a webinar about the Disc and I kept thinking that B is a C and if only I had done some things differently....same thing happens here when I read posts about FAs. I am in therapy and am trying to address the underlying wounds...but I am just so surprised how what was my shortest relationship has impacted me on such a deep level.....so much more then the 2 narcs I dated. I am not mad at myself....just so very curious. I think you need to put some kind of treatment plan with a time limit in place. I think I was kind of like you and spent about 10 years once wondering what i could have done differently with a FA or DA or a narc or whatever he was. Thing is, I did everything I could and there was nothing I could have done any more. At a certain point we have to understand that it’s only so far we can take it with our effort, and the rest is the other person. And if they are incapable of being in a relationship we need to let them go so that they don’t suffer any more. Listen it’s good for him that he was able to find someone and is trying. I think that’s admirable. But we all know how that will end unless he is in serious therapy. It’s time to dust yourself off and stop blaming yourself for the failure of the relationship. Even though it’s a painful place to be, it’s also comfortable to be blaming yourself. So you keep the focus outside of yourself in the context of the relationship and not in the context of you. It’s a codependency. See if you can break that tether and while it will be painful, your growth will begin.
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Post by tnr9 on Feb 7, 2020 17:27:35 GMT
It is approaching 3 years since B broke up with me and I feel like I am still incredibly stuck in wanting him back while he is progressing forward with a new relationship. The other day I was watching a webinar about the Disc and I kept thinking that B is a C and if only I had done some things differently....same thing happens here when I read posts about FAs. I am in therapy and am trying to address the underlying wounds...but I am just so surprised how what was my shortest relationship has impacted me on such a deep level.....so much more then the 2 narcs I dated. I am not mad at myself....just so very curious. I think you need to put some kind of treatment plan with a time limit in place. I think I was kind of like you and spent about 10 years once wondering what i could have done differently with a FA or DA or a narc or whatever he was. Thing is, I did everything I could and there was nothing I could have done any more. At a certain point we have to understand that it’s only so far we can take it with our effort, and the rest is the other person. And if they are incapable of being in a relationship we need to let them go so that they don’t suffer any more. Listen it’s good for him that he was able to find someone and is trying. I think that’s admirable. But we all know how that will end unless he is in serious therapy. It’s time to dust yourself off and stop blaming yourself for the failure of the relationship. Even though it’s a painful place to be, it’s also comfortable to be blaming yourself. So you keep the focus outside of yourself in the context of the relationship and not in the context of you. It’s a codependency. See if you can break that tether and while it will be painful, your growth will begin. I hear what you are saying and this is where I automatically go...what if he isn’t FA...what if he was just this normal guy who happened to have a thing for drugs and alcohol....what if I was too much and not enough and pushed him away.What if this new girl is all the things I could not be and she is getting a great, loyal, loving, involved guy.....and as I am thinking this...my throat gets tight and I well up with tears. Gosh this pattern is really entrenched.
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Post by annieb on Feb 7, 2020 17:39:48 GMT
You understand that this has not anything to do with that relationship? That you are simply using this construct to perpetuate your low self esteem. You have pathways in your brain that need this repetitive loop to continue. You need to rewire these pathways.
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Post by Helsbells on Feb 7, 2020 17:53:43 GMT
One of my sisters best friends husband cheated on her 18yrs ago leaving her with two small children. He left her for this other women and went on to marry her and have another family. 18yrs on my sisters friend is still stuck in grief and hasnt been able to have another relationship and has remained single. Her story has always terrified me and I will be damned if anyone FA or not will ruin me and define me like it has my sisters friend. It is such a shame to see such a beautiful lady stuck in such suffering and no matter how much all her friends are there for her nothing appears to help her, she says her heart is too broken. So so sad 😪😪
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Post by tnr9 on Feb 7, 2020 19:27:56 GMT
You understand that this has not anything to do with that relationship? That you are simply using this construct to perpetuate your low self esteem. You have pathways in your brain that need this repetitive loop to continue. You need to rewire these pathways. I do....I just had to get the thoughts out of my head so I could get back to the adult perspective. I am better now...back to a more rational perspective...but man...that was some awful triggering. Truth is, I really know nothing about B and this girl, other than the fact that he is still listed as being in a relationship. I think part of what I fight against is this perspective that without work, he will be doomed to repeat his pattern....based on what I am seeing....that does not appear to be happening....so my brain goes into self shame mode instead of being ok with him moving on. It is like, I want his relationship to fail because then it would mean that there was more then him just not being into me.
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Post by alexandra on Feb 7, 2020 19:30:28 GMT
tnr9, don't let your mind play that trick on you. Take a look at this other current thread, page 6. She's saying almost word for word what you are, what if he's normal and I made him act that way? It's a common part of the anxious attachment thought pattern. I said the same thing there, he isn't a normal healthy guy, you didn't cause anything. B has issues, you have issues, you connected, and the mutual insecure attachment dynamics played out. jebkinnisonforum.com/thread/2383/help-sorry-long-detailedWhat are you actually afraid of in letting him go and moving forward to prioritize yourself? Having to do only with you, forget about what he may or may not be doing if you detached from him.
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Post by amber on Feb 7, 2020 19:52:20 GMT
It’s been three years since you split? Have you removed him from social media? Why can you still see what his relationship status is? I can relate to the obsessing and ruminating, I have this issue too after breakups. It’s trauma. It’s notbing to do with your ex. It has to do with the child part of you that believed that if only you could figure out your parents and be exactly who they needed you to be then they would change and you would get the love you so deseperately need. For myself putting some internal boundaries in place helps; like when I find myself ruminating I will say something like “no, you’ve done this a gazillion times, you never find a clearer answer, the reality is the r/ship is over and it doesn’t matter why, drop it”. This works for me most of the time. You can’t just let that part of you run wild, just like if you had a child of your own you wouldn’t let it go crazy, you would put boundaries in place for it.
At the end of the day it actually doesn’t matter why it ended or why he didn’t want to be with you, the reality is that’s the way it is. I find being AP we have a massive resistance accepting reality and I think that’s what blocks healing and moving on.
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Post by nyc718 on Feb 7, 2020 23:24:49 GMT
It is approaching 3 years since B broke up with me and I feel like I am still incredibly stuck in wanting him back while he is progressing forward with a new relationship. The other day I was watching a webinar about the Disc and I kept thinking that B is a C and if only I had done some things differently....same thing happens here when I read posts about FAs. I am in therapy and am trying to address the underlying wounds...but I am just so surprised how what was my shortest relationship has impacted me on such a deep level.....so much more then the 2 narcs I dated. I am not mad at myself....just so very curious. I can't say I have any solutions for you because I haven't been hung up on anyone that long. However, I'm wondering if you've ever said things to yourself such as I am worthy, I am awesome, I bring a lot to the table, I will not define myself by my relationship because I am so much more than someone's wife/girlfriend, I have a great sense of humor, I am a good person and people love me, and I love me most of all? I ask because these are things one has to say and believe about themselves, and it takes the responsibility off anyone else to otherwise 'complete' them, and it puts the responsibility on self to be those things. It can be difficult if this wasn't reinforced as kids, but it is the healthy mindset to aspire to in order to be free of being dependent on anyone else to 'make' us happy. It's often rewiring the brain for a lot of people, but it can be done.
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Post by tnr9 on Feb 8, 2020 1:29:30 GMT
It’s been three years since you split? Have you removed him from social media? Why can you still see what his relationship status is? I can relate to the obsessing and ruminating, I have this issue too after breakups. It’s trauma. It’s notbing to do with your ex. It has to do with the child part of you that believed that if only you could figure out your parents and be exactly who they needed you to be then they would change and you would get the love you so deseperately need. For myself putting some internal boundaries in place helps; like when I find myself ruminating I will say something like “no, you’ve done this a gazillion times, you never find a clearer answer, the reality is the r/ship is over and it doesn’t matter why, drop it”. This works for me most of the time. You can’t just let that part of you run wild, just like if you had a child of your own you wouldn’t let it go crazy, you would put boundaries in place for it. At the end of the day it actually doesn’t matter why it ended or why he didn’t want to be with you, the reality is that’s the way it is. I find being AP we have a massive resistance accepting reality and I think that’s what blocks healing and moving on. Answering in order....almost 3 years since he broke up with me....yes. Removed him from my social media....I defriended him after he started dating this new girl in August....before then, we were still linked on Facebook....and he would come over to hang out. I am doing a lot better...but....when it hits me it hits me hard.
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Post by tnr9 on Feb 8, 2020 1:49:51 GMT
It is approaching 3 years since B broke up with me and I feel like I am still incredibly stuck in wanting him back while he is progressing forward with a new relationship. The other day I was watching a webinar about the Disc and I kept thinking that B is a C and if only I had done some things differently....same thing happens here when I read posts about FAs. I am in therapy and am trying to address the underlying wounds...but I am just so surprised how what was my shortest relationship has impacted me on such a deep level.....so much more then the 2 narcs I dated. I am not mad at myself....just so very curious. I can't say I have any solutions for you because I haven't been hung up on anyone that long. However, I'm wondering if you've ever said things to yourself such as I am worthy, I am awesome, I bring a lot to the table, I will not define myself by my relationship because I am so much more than someone's wife/girlfriend, I have a great sense of humor, I am a good person and people love me, and I love me most of all? I ask because these are things one has to say and believe about themselves, and it takes the responsibility off anyone else to otherwise 'complete' them, and it puts the responsibility on self to be those things. It can be difficult if this wasn't reinforced as kids, but it is the healthy mindset to aspire to in order to be free of being dependent on anyone else to 'make' us happy. It's often rewiring the brain for a lot of people, but it can be done. This is the longest I have ever.....not even sure what words to use.....still desired someone who broke up with me. I think agreeing to be friends when I knew I wanted him back was a huge mistake. Telling him it was ok for him to come back to the community when I was still hurting was a huge mistake. Dating him, when I knew he had doubts and I was all in was a huge mistake. I am in unchartered waters and I feel like I am floundering.
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Post by nyc718 on Feb 8, 2020 2:00:17 GMT
I can't say I have any solutions for you because I haven't been hung up on anyone that long. However, I'm wondering if you've ever said things to yourself such as I am worthy, I am awesome, I bring a lot to the table, I will not define myself by my relationship because I am so much more than someone's wife/girlfriend, I have a great sense of humor, I am a good person and people love me, and I love me most of all? I ask because these are things one has to say and believe about themselves, and it takes the responsibility off anyone else to otherwise 'complete' them, and it puts the responsibility on self to be those things. It can be difficult if this wasn't reinforced as kids, but it is the healthy mindset to aspire to in order to be free of being dependent on anyone else to 'make' us happy. It's often rewiring the brain for a lot of people, but it can be done. This is the longest I have ever.....not even sure what words to use.....still desired someone who broke up with me. I think agreeing to be friends when I knew I wanted him back was a huge mistake. Telling him it was ok for him to come back to the community when I was still hurting was a huge mistake. Dating him, when I knew he had doubts and I was all in was a huge mistake. I am in unchartered waters and I feel like I am floundering. I am truly sorry you are suffering about this. But it seems the bigger issue is your self esteem and self worth, as in if you aren't with this person, you aren't worthy or life isn't otherwise worth living. That's way too much power to give to someone else, and that goes for anyone - parents, lover, friend, child. No one should have that power over us, especially someone who isn't looking out or caring for us. You are an individual with your individual gifts to offer this world, more specifically those in your world around you. You are a complete person and you shouldn't revolve around this other person. He isn't the be all and end all of YOU. Have you done any inner child healing work? I have and it's powerful, SO very powerful and freeing and liberating.
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Post by amber on Feb 8, 2020 2:01:18 GMT
I can't say I have any solutions for you because I haven't been hung up on anyone that long. However, I'm wondering if you've ever said things to yourself such as I am worthy, I am awesome, I bring a lot to the table, I will not define myself by my relationship because I am so much more than someone's wife/girlfriend, I have a great sense of humor, I am a good person and people love me, and I love me most of all? I ask because these are things one has to say and believe about themselves, and it takes the responsibility off anyone else to otherwise 'complete' them, and it puts the responsibility on self to be those things. It can be difficult if this wasn't reinforced as kids, but it is the healthy mindset to aspire to in order to be free of being dependent on anyone else to 'make' us happy. It's often rewiring the brain for a lot of people, but it can be done. This is the longest I have ever.....not even sure what words to use.....still desired someone who broke up with me. I think agreeing to be friends when I knew I wanted him back was a huge mistake. Telling him it was ok for him to come back to the community when I was still hurting was a huge mistake. Dating him, when I knew he had doubts and I was all in was a huge mistake. I am in unchartered waters and I feel like I am floundering. I think the key issue here is that you are still making this about him, when it’s clearly about your old wounds. If you keep transferring your old wounds onto the current situation, it’s muhc harder to move on, and then you flounder, as you said. Are you doing talk therapy? There’s a limit to how much that can help you. Look into somatic experiencing, or Daniel browns three pillars of attachment protocol which both have some studies to back their efficacy. You can change this, but you need to be resourceful and do something different to create inner change
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Post by nyc718 on Feb 8, 2020 2:10:00 GMT
This is the longest I have ever.....not even sure what words to use.....still desired someone who broke up with me. I think agreeing to be friends when I knew I wanted him back was a huge mistake. Telling him it was ok for him to come back to the community when I was still hurting was a huge mistake. Dating him, when I knew he had doubts and I was all in was a huge mistake. I am in unchartered waters and I feel like I am floundering. I think the key issue here is that you are still making this about him, when it’s clearly about your old wounds. If you keep transferring your old wounds onto the current situation, it’s muhc harder to move on, and then you flounder, as you said. Are you doing talk therapy? There’s a limit to how much that can help you. Look into somatic experiencing, or Daniel browns three pillars of attachment protocol which both have some studies to back their efficacy. You can change this, but you need to be resourceful and do something different to create inner change I second this, talk therapy can only do so much. For me it was hypnotherapy and reiki shamanic healing - powerful stuff. I've read about somatic therapy, and a friend told me about Qi Gong healing that she did. These are all different modalities that go deeper than talk therapy. Give them a try, and hugs to you tnr9
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