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Post by mysteryuser on Jun 29, 2023 17:21:09 GMT
I've been spending a lot of time healing my inner child wounds and I feel like I've made a lot of progress. I've been unraveling my fear of abandonment and I've realized it largely consists of two fears:
- fear of not surviving without an attachment figure
- the fear of what it means for my worth if I'm single/abandoned
I feel like I've made a lot of progress on the first. A lot of it was due to my mom repeatedly highlighting all of what I've done entirely on my own, without any help. Affirmations, keeping track and remembering all my accomplishments (small and large), and some inner child imagery ( this video was absolutely amazing for me) have helped a lot. Imagining my adult self hugging and comforting my child self has been very helpful. Highlighting all the little things I've done that I never thought I could (especially physical things because I'm quite short -- like moving to another state on my own, assembling and lifting furniture etc) and finally being entirely financially independent and making huge dents in my student loans has helped me immensely. I needed my parents when I was younger, but I don't need a boyfriend to survive.
That said, I don't quite know with the feeling of shame and low self-worth that lays low beneath this fear. It comes and goes, but I do often think about what it reflects of me if I'm single/abandoned when so many of my friends are in long-term relationships. Why am I not chosen? Why doesn't anyone stick around? etc.
I think a few things like boundary-work has helped because it highlights how other's opinions and choices have nothing to do with me. It has also helped to list what I want in a partner (especially loyalty, consistent effort, commitment and the ability to resolve and grow from conflict) and understanding that I don't want to "settle" unless I get those things. But I'm discouraged at constantly having to "heal" myself as if I'm broken - and tired of this not coming naturally for me. I'm also unable to get rid of how all of this - and the fact that every guy I've liked has abandoned me (though most have come back.. lol) - reflects on me.
I'm 23 turning 24 and I know I have time. I'll be fine, one way or another. I am trying to accept the uncertainty of not knowing what will happen. But I know the feeling of low self-worth will catch up to me as the years go by if I haven't found someone who wants to stick by me. I do feel I have a lot to offer as a friend and a partner (I have multiple friends I've known for 10+ years that still love talking to me multiple times a week). But I don't know how to manage this feeling.
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Post by alexandra on Jun 29, 2023 18:11:20 GMT
This may seem kind of unrelated, and I know some of this perspective is cultural and there may be more pressure some places to be paired off in your early 20s, but being single reflects... nothing. Especially at that age. Only that you haven't found the right match yet. And to be perfectly honest, all those people you know paired off, probably most of them haven't found the right match yet, either. Most relationships that form so young don't last because you're still all growing and getting to know yourselves and will change a lot over the next ten years, while simultaneously learning the skills for how to be in a healthy romantic relationship. Some last, but many people grow apart not together. Not everyone chooses perfectly right away, they learn through experience. There's a lot of compatibility and commitment involved, and I am constantly grateful I didn't end up with the people I chose to date in my late teens and 20s. Our values would have turned out to be really off and incompatible, and we wouldn't have been able to properly support each other in important ways. I'm also grateful for having a lot of experiences, dating-wise, professionally, even traveling alone when I was single, just getting to know myself and doing a ton I wanted to try out when I still had the free time and means to do some of it. It made me even more confident when I did meet the right person that not only was it the right situation but I had no regrets that I would wonder what else is out there or if I missed out on life experiences by settling down young and before I knew myself and got to accomplish other things that weren't just "someone's wife." Again, may be partially cultural, as some people only want to be someone's wife and that's cool if that's what they want.
That doesn't directly answer your question about how to deal with it, and I know it's kind of abstract to someone younger to say you'll have a different perspective with more experience. If someone said that to me when I was anxious and 23 I'd be pretty skeptical as it would be hard to relate to hearing that. But having a partner doesn't define your value at all, especially at this age, and isn't a guarantee of anything a few months and years down the road anyway. In a way, looking to the relationship and someone else's commitment to you to derive your value is doing it backwards. It all works out better when you define yourself first and then choose someone who complements that.
What being single at your age with your background says about you is probably just, you've been letting the anxiety subconsciously lead you to choosing other insecure partners, so they have problems with emotional availability and don't fully commit. That's something you're in the process of working to learn from and change, so therefore it doesn't define you or your future.
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Post by mysteryuser on Jun 29, 2023 20:02:25 GMT
alexandra thank you, and I agree that it is cultural - I'm Asian and there's certainly implicit (sometimes explicit) pressure to be paired up by your late 20s. However even if I were with someone I don't plan on getting married or anything anytime in the next 5+ years. But I know this notion affects me to some degree. I also know some people around me have relationships I would not want to be in, and I also understand things change. I think there's certainly a level of insecurity from my teen/young adult years because in many ways I was "last" to experience a lot of romantic stuff, which combined with teenage hormones and constant comparisons made me feel lacking. Looking back, there is no one from my past I would build a life with. Though my recent ex got close, I know I wouldn't be able to rely on him. I see why you mention it doesn't define my future because every encounter I've had has been progressively better than the previous one as I realized what I want/need and looked for it. My ex seemed secure for the first 6 months and I chose him because of that. I know a lot more about myself today than I did even 4 months ago, and I know this last experience has forced my to look within myself and look at this whole thing differently. This past month has been the first time in MANY years that I've been focusing only on myself and not on wanting to find somebody or obsessing over anyone. When you say "looking to the relationship and someone else's commitment to you to derive your value is doing it backwards" -- that's exactly what I want to learn to do. Because I can understand a lot of this cognitively, but I know I don't have that sense of self-worth. Rationally, I want to build a life of my own and only accept a partner if they fit into my life and what I need. But it's hard to keep that outlook up, because emotionally I feel like I'm lacking something.
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Post by alexandra on Jun 29, 2023 20:40:29 GMT
I think it ultimately goes back to the recurring theme of accepting yourself where you are and wherever that is being okay, and that it will take time to do what you're trying to accomplish which is also okay, and keep at it. You're not deficient just because your emotional self hasn't caught up to your intellectual self yet. It's all part of the process and processing that's happening over time. The process includes not comparing yourself to others, and continuing to build your identity by simply being and continuing to try new things without concern for how it reflects to other people and what they say about it. That may be an aspect where going through the motions and faking it until you make it (because in this case it means continuing to learn about yourself and be present for your own experiences, which will build cumulatively over time) will eventually start to have an impact. But when you'll notice that impact is impossible to predict.
I thought I'd be married 10+ years earlier than I was, because that's the cultural norm and expectation for me. But instead, I found the partnership I was looking for once I was actually ready for it, and not before. Cultural norms may exist for a reason, but they aren't the be-all end-all for best way to live your life. They are still guidelines you can question for yourself, and the parts where you're exploring who you are in the meantime adding up will give you the strength in the future to do that. It's very normal to be grappling with questions of identity and self-worth in your teens and 20s, especially in a rapidly changing world, even if you've got a secure attachment style. So I don't think you're behind at all, even if your peers aren't openly talking about these issues (they may or may not even be actively thinking about them at this point in their own lives! Lots of people run on auto-pilot).
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Post by alexandra on Jun 29, 2023 20:50:39 GMT
Adding, you can check out the healing AP thread for more exercises jebkinnisonforum.com/thread/1072/healing-anxious-ambivalent-attatchment-tricks or maybe anne12 has some specific recommendations. But the reason I'm not giving any in particular is because I found the shame and low self worth is part of a bigger system, and having the different moving pieces in place and just trusting there would be change if I gave it time and stuck with it was more helpful than any specific individual aspect. As everything was coming together, and I was making a concerted effort to be present and hear my own voice and practice trusting myself, the rest evolved with it.
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Post by mysteryuser on Jun 30, 2023 3:09:49 GMT
I think you're definitely right about there being different moving pieces in place and giving it time. It does help to just sit with these ideas, take small steps towards showing up for myself and reminding myself of what's important to me. Over time there is definitely a cumulative effect. In terms of "being present with yourself", did you have moments where you didn't know what to trust? Whether the anxiety was caused by something that was actually something that didn't make you feel good vs just your mind/tendencies making you see red flags where there weren't any?
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Post by alexandra on Jun 30, 2023 6:52:13 GMT
Definitely, because I didn't trust myself. Though I should have because I did have good gut instincts about things, I just second-guessed them due to lack of trust in myself. I also would attribute issues to things that were in front of me (like relationship partners...) that were subtly actually about something else (not necessarily the relationship partners at all), but it wasn't intuitive to me. That's pretty common for insecures, and I've probably shared this link with you already: jebkinnisonforum.com/thread/2372/overcoupling-stress-response
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Post by anne12 on Jun 30, 2023 10:21:20 GMT
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Post by mysteryuser on Jul 1, 2023 0:57:12 GMT
Thank you both. I'll keep at it.
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Post by mrob on Jul 2, 2023 9:46:10 GMT
Risking my life coming to this side of the forum again…. At 22 I got married to my first girlfriend. A quote at the time was that it “made me a respectable eccentric”. While this was quite possibly true, there was no doubt I was acting from a place not dissimilar to yours. Of course, it didn’t work out. It also didn’t work out for her and the person who made the quote, either. That’s another story for another day, lol.
The cultural aspect is important and you have to ask the questions… What are your expectations of marriage? The Western ideal or the Eastern utilitarian model? Both have risks, one is definitely more stable than the other, but at a cost. Is that cost palatable to you? Only you can answer these questions.
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Post by mysteryuser on Jul 2, 2023 18:41:57 GMT
mrob I wouldn't want to get married anytime before ~30 haha. I would want a "Western ideal" because I value my freedom and want to live my true authentic life and I wouldn't want a spouse who is unhappy in the relationship. I want a partnership that is healthy and happy, and I eventually want to raise a child because I value close family. But I won't do any of that at the cost of my freedom and I'm learning to live my true authentic self without losing myself for the sake of a relationship, and to make peace with the idea of it being an uncertain outcome and it not being a reflection of my worth. I don't need to subscribe to a utilitarian model either - I'm a financially independent professional with a promising, high-paying career - and I don't 'need' anybody to live my life, but I think my emotional self will take time to catch up! I've grown up with an 'almost' broken family with constant talks of divorce. In my mind the idea of safety has been closely tied with the idea of a close family life. I'm now learning to create my own sense of safety without "needing" the family, and instead moving towards just "wanting" one.
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