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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2023 14:39:36 GMT
That truly is a lot to bring to a query about his attachment. I'm really sorry you are suffering this way but don't feel I have anything helpful to offer, as I approached this from the standpoint of attachment and there are other, bigger factors at play. I truly hope you find the support that you need to get through this in the best way possible.
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Post by kaleidorain on Sept 8, 2023 14:44:38 GMT
I am sorry, thanks to all of you
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Post by anne12 on Sept 8, 2023 15:02:28 GMT
Diane Poole Heller shows how She works with: 1) How do you work with a “borderline” situation in a client? 2) How do you work with someone who has Dissociative Identity Disorder? Using the example of a grapefruit, the exercise demonstrated provides you with a simple visual for explaining an integrated sense of self, as well as how to work with the splitting technique. dianepooleheller.com/video-4/I am not sure if the video is still avaliable at her homepage
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Post by kaleidorain on Sept 8, 2023 15:21:05 GMT
no it doesnt, I tried to look for it elsewhere but I cant find it. Thanks anyway dear, I think writing so much about my story made me feel very sad now as I think "wtf its too much I am done", but I have to soothe myself as much as I can and see the improvements, good things/connections/moments, things I am grateful for and so on. Trying so hard! thanks to all!
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Post by cherrycola on Sept 8, 2023 18:03:56 GMT
I think what really helped me is tuning into the positive around me. Positive friends. Positive situations. And what brings me peace. Notice when people make things easy for you. Notice the people who want to be around you. Notice the people who respond to your bids for connection. Then when people start to disturb that peace it has started to get easier to go yuck ! It's definitely been a process though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 17:32:53 GMT
Why let someone control everything this way? I've been in a situation where I was taken off a shelf and put back on by a man so self absorbed with his appetites and his neurosis, it was allllll about him and I can scarcely believe I tolerated it even for a minute. You aren't an appliance for him to utilize for his good feelings and then put you away when he has had his little fix. And the same tbe other way around. This is as toxic and unhealthy as it feels and will go on ad infinitum if you let it.
All insecures interact as immature, selfish people until they work to repair the issues caused by insecure attachment. It's a dysfunctional coping strategy based in selfish pursuit of one's own agenda, whether anxious, avoidant, or mixed. That doesn't mean it's all intentional or motivated by cruelty. Its just not mature and considerate of others. It's me, me, me, me. And you get to fit in however works for HIM. So lame. Don't keep falling for it. If you do, don't expect some kind of breakthrough. It's not something that changes with simple awareness, it takes a lot of conscious, intentional willingness to confront one's own dark side and the pain that these behaviors seek to bury and avoid. As long as you allow this, you enable his toxic relationship pattern, and yours. You won't coax him out of it. You're along for the ride and he's driving, and so far it works for him a lot better than it does you. He gets what he wants... which is to take you off a shelf, get sex and affection and a chance to gain sympathy, then he puts you back until he's ready for his own needs to be met again. Lame.
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Post by anne12 on Sept 10, 2023 7:59:12 GMT
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Post by SpeakCzar on Sept 10, 2023 22:12:21 GMT
Great sources. Will always advocate for men and woman knowing more about the inner mechanisms of a woman's cycle. Important information for any man, especially one in an intimate relationship with a woman.
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Post by kaleidorain on Sept 11, 2023 16:57:42 GMT
Thanks, I have no doubt he is interested not only in sex, this is not at all my concern. Since the beginning he has been more worried that it was my interest and that he didn't want it to be the focus as he has did this in his 20s and was now bored by only having sex and sleeping over so he wanted to talk and etc.. and he wanted me to know that because if I was looking for something more sex focused it was not him. We anyway created an amazing sexual bond but this is something normal and good, not a concern at all. Anyway, I am abroad and with my family etc and I feel vary bad. I remember when I was here months ago and we chatted and had normal interaction and I shared with him about my things. I can see my obsession and dependence, I can see clearly that I cannot enjoy anything because of this half-rupture, I can clearly see my response to it is anything but healthy and I have been talking about it crying with my sister and talked more with my psychiatrist. We know its also a trauma response and AA, and I feel ashamed about it. I feel ashamed that at my age, 34, with a background of high independence going all over the world alone and ambitious with my personal development and career,I now feel like this for relationships and they are everything in my life. I know I feel only good If love relationships go well, I compare myself all the time to others who have relationships and I feel lame and loser that my situation is this I have now. It's ridiculous. I had an attachment coach and many support and I am still in this and my friends and family don't know what to do and they know my grief trauma has a lot to do with it. It's so so so difficult to feel good and enjoy all I have while I am NC with him and after I know his feelings but that this can't happen in a healthy way.
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Post by kaleidorain on Sept 22, 2023 18:31:42 GMT
Idk if someone is still interested in supporting me here, so sorry if I am redundant! The day has arrived: I am going back to his country, where I live, as my vacations abroad got to an end.
News are the following:
Every time we reach out to the other, we say we think about each other, but it has not been frequent. On his bday I called him and He said we would meet at my return. Again no contact, after a few days I had a surgery and he reached out to know how I was.
Again I said I missed him and he said he thought about me. I later insisted a bit too much maybe, telling him I wanted to hug him, and asking how he felt, and he talked about his life and that he wants to live it more superficially. I heard this from my late ex (who died) so I got triggered and pretty susceptible and I asked if I was a heavy part of his life. He stopped answering and I got mad which I usually don't but I was too nervous.
He said he had no intention not to answer, that there is no reasons for me to think he would not answer, and that he never thought of me as something heavy in his life and why would I think that.
I told him it was because of his answers etc, and he told me that he cares but I had made him notice that he was no consistent with his request of distance and that I was right. I told him ok I will leave you at peace. This was two nights ago.
I preview it's finished and he never asked about my return or offered to pick me up, I don't know if he remembers the date of my return. I start being anxious and sad again, cause I see myself in that town, knowing he is so close and I can't see him for no real reason, as the only reasons why he asks for distance are based on fear, after he was traumatized by a previous break up. It is a lot to digest for me
Struggling with no contact, I wish I could tell him that I am returning but I want to respect his distance more and I think that reaching out could worsen things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 21:07:56 GMT
Stop mollycoddling this guy and his "fears". He's given every indication that what you see is what you get. Really, hold back from normal communication with the guy who enjoys your sex, for fear of making things worse?
The only thing worse than this complete disregard for you is the excuses the both of you make about it.
Don't you feel demeaned by this? If it's abandonment you're struggling with over No Contact, that's part for the course but your problem to solve, he will never make you feel better about all this.
Wishing you strength and clarity, sincerely. This is a dead end.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 21:09:53 GMT
"I thought about you."
I think a million things a day and don't do shit about most of them, but a relationship? That takes more than a passing thought. Think of yourself?
Edit: For what it's worth, your thinking and behavior here is hard core insecure anxious, and chasing an unavailable guy is a symptom, it's not the problem. Its a symptom of your own dysfunctional approach to relationship. This is not about his fear... its about you doing what an anxious person does. We have all been in insecure messes here, so there isn't judgement. But this is your hangup, not just his.
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Post by KAI on Sept 22, 2023 21:40:47 GMT
I agree with Usernametaken and Introvert there that you seem to be holding on to promises of this guy being something he cannot be for now...
The question you should really ask yourself is : Can I really take this, and not suffer all hell out of it ? Right now, you should really focus back on you, and your self worth to not feel so bad once those kind of situations arise = working on being more secure in yourself. Then, you'll find yourself to have better understanding not only of others in relationships, but -and that's the most important part- YOURSELF. Learning how to slowly unbuild the ways that were built earlier should be key to feeling more in peace ..
You can do it !
Let us know
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Post by SpeakCzar on Sept 23, 2023 1:51:20 GMT
Introvert has helped me immensely following my break-up. In the heat of the moment, the weeks when the would was still fresh, it was difficult for me to assimilate what she had to tell me into my conscious and my everyday decisions. As time passes and the breakup/relationship fades into a distant memory, I am clearer headed and am able to see her advice for what it is: truth! She has been there/done that. Alexandra is also this person for me, and for what it is worth, every nugget of helpfulness that they have sent to me on this forum has proven invaluable. I hope you take their words to heart! They are wise and filled with experience directly relating to what you're experiencing now.
If you are anything like me, the idea that someone else might have an understanding of what you're going through might seem absurd. But as I said, as time went on, I recognized that these two do truly understand the topic at hand. There is nothing more for me to add than their contributions, but I did want to highlight how their advice, which is similar to the words of wisdom you've received here from them, has aided me as I have applied it. You got this!
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Post by kaleidorain on Sept 23, 2023 4:02:39 GMT
Really, hold back from normal communication with the guy who enjoys your sex, for fear of making things worse? I think I have not understood this. Maybe cause I am not s native English speaker. About 'enjoyin my sex' I am pretty sure as I said before it is not at all his first interest and it's more one of my concerns than his, not having sex for a while. Thanks for your inputs as always, and sorry if I misunderstood your sentence.
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