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Post by cherrycola on Mar 15, 2024 23:45:26 GMT
There is of course the path of honesty. I feel confused, your message isn't really enough for me. I need more time and space to process my feelings.
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Post by alexandra on Mar 16, 2024 2:20:11 GMT
Aside from being honest about needing more space, I'm not sure why he also needs to know she's confused and his message isn't enough for her? He isn't asking her for anything or offering anything other than an apology (which sounds like it's out of guilt, what tnr9 said about it being all about him and that's why it isn't enough). I'd agree if they were trying to work things out in some capacity, but that's not what he reached out about.
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Post by cherrycola on Mar 16, 2024 2:46:51 GMT
I said that in reference to her saying she wasn't sure if she wanted to reach out to reconnect or close the door. It really ultimately depends on what she wants to do. I mean yes, she could simply say, I need more time, and leave it at that as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 4:57:13 GMT
Once you get over this anxiety you're having you likely won't give a shit about being friends, that's a cute little trap that insecurity lays for you.
Best thing you can do is purge this toxic, absolutely dead end entanglement out of your life and try to keep growing so that you don't repeat this. You may have one or a few insecure entanglements ahead, just try to learn from each one so that one day you can choose a healthier partner because you're healthier too. In the meantime the more time and energy you waste on this particular guy... the more you'll shake your head in disbelief when you're finally done. What I'm saying is, insecurity is like being drunk and when you sober up you're like "what the f*%$ was I thinking, OMG 🤦‍♀️"
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Post by kat94 on Mar 16, 2024 12:49:16 GMT
So why do FAs tend to sit on the fence and never seem to seem to formal end relationships?
In hindsight I think suggesting to be friends is a terrible idea, as I would be lying to myself if I were to say that I would be comfortable having him as a friend then down the line seeing him dating someone new.
I haven’t responded to his message, I want to say something I’m just not sure what I would like to say.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 13:30:27 GMT
So why do FAs tend to sit on the fence and never seem to seem to formal end relationships? In hindsight I think suggesting to be friends is a terrible idea, as I would be lying to myself if I were to say that I would be comfortable having him as a friend then down the line seeing him dating someone new. I haven’t responded to his message, I want to say something I’m just not sure what I would like to say. Why are you asking about why an FA doesn't formally end a relationship when you haven't done so here yourself? If you keep it to your own insecure behavior, your own inability to make a choice for yourself that is reasonable and secure, you will find you have a lot to work on.
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Post by kat94 on Mar 16, 2024 15:23:14 GMT
I’ve not formally ended the relationship because I clearly want to leave the door open as I have feelings. The difference between me and him is I’m ready for a relationship and he is not.
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Post by sunrisequest on Mar 16, 2024 15:46:24 GMT
I’ve not formally ended the relationship because I clearly want to leave the door open as I have feelings. The difference between me and him is I’m ready for a relationship and he is not. I’ve done this too - left the door wide open for someone to come back in after they’ve been really confused about what they want and gone back and forth on that… but truth is, someone else’s confusion is your clarity. What you can feel clear on is that he’s not ready and doesn’t know if he wants you/a relationship. And means you need to close the door yourself, and not wait for him to do it. As someone else said, he’ll let you know in a clear way if he changes his mind and suddenly feels ready.
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Post by kat94 on Mar 16, 2024 16:05:31 GMT
I agree leaving the door open gives him a free pass to come and go as he wishes. What I know very clearly is unless he starts working on his issues with a professional and actually wants to do the work then he will never been ready.
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Post by alexandra on Mar 16, 2024 16:14:19 GMT
The difference between me and him is I’m ready for a relationship and he is not. This is a gigantic difference. But I've found in my own experiences that if it's true and you're really ready for a serious relationship, you won't leave the door open for someone who is so far away from having the same goals. Doing so closes the door completely on someone else who is available to you. So in a way, it puts you in a mindset where you yourself are not actually available for the relationship you say you want.
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Post by kat94 on Mar 16, 2024 16:33:14 GMT
That is the negative side of having him remain in my life without any clear boundaries is that my choice will hold me back from having a serious relationship. But right now I just don’t feel able to close the door.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 19:38:14 GMT
I agree leaving the door open gives him a free pass to come and go as he wishes. What I know very clearly is unless he starts working on his issues with a professional and actually wants to do the work then he will never been ready. Again, you are making statements about him which apply to you. You might think you're ready but you are NOT, because you are in conflict and confusion about a man who neglected your emotional needs the whole time and continues to now. If you were taking your own emotional needs seriously you would not be focusing on why he does this or that, if he does this or that... you are conveniently placing your thoughts on him and not applying your statements to yourself. If you were ready, you would behave as if you were ready and close the door on this guy who isn't ready. So just be clear with yourself, go ahead and admit it... you are emotionally not ready for a relationship. To be ready for a healthy relationship, you have to be ready to receive and you are most attracted to someone who has something to offer. Instead, you remain stuck internally with someone who literally won't answer your call and hasn't interacted with you in weeks. There isn't anything inherently shameful about being emotionally unavailable or about having attachment issues, so I'm not beating you up but be real... you are not ready for a relationship and it's time to stop comparing yourself to him, saying you're ready and he's not. You're kidding yourself, and it isn't going to do you any good. When you're ready, you won't be waiting around for someone who has behaved like this all this time, hot and cold, insecure and unavailable. Until then, you are behaving insecurely because you are insecure, and you're not emotionally available or ready foe a relationship, meaning you have more to explore in yourself instead of pinning it all on him. It's not about him.
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Post by kat94 on Mar 16, 2024 20:12:46 GMT
I disagree, with the statement that I’m not ready for a relationship. I was and I still am, just because my emotions got enmeshed with someone who brought out my anxious side and triggered old wounds which makes it hard for me to end things.
I don’t see how I’m emotionally unavailable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 21:55:47 GMT
I disagree, with the statement that I’m not ready for a relationship. I was and I still am, just because my emotions got enmeshed with someone who brought out my anxious side and triggered old wounds which makes it hard for me to end things. I don’t see how I’m emotionally unavailable. Honestly, that's probably the biggest blind spot for anxious attachers. Thais Gibson has some illuminating videos about the emotional unavailable piece. For anxious types.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2024 22:34:57 GMT
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