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Post by annalee on May 21, 2024 9:20:03 GMT
I refused his exclusive relationship with no future offer and I left him immediately. It has been months with no contact and my pain this time round hurts more than ever.
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Post by alexandra on May 21, 2024 13:07:16 GMT
Hi annalee... I'm sorry this happened and it's been very painful, but it sounds like your ex is selfish as well as a bad communicator with a bunch of other issues, and you've had enough turns on the merry-go-round to see he isn't going to change. He's shown you his true colors repeatedly, and takes his issues out on other people instead of truly working through them. I'm not entirely sure what your question is, but I'm assuming you are trying to find ways to get over the pain instead of staying stuck. So the questions for you to consider are, what are your feelings telling you now? Why are you still in so much pain instead of feeling relief that several months ago you stood up for yourself because you knew you deserved much better? That's a good thing! You didn't abandon yourself and let him treat you however he felt like it, and you gave yourself space to move on and open yourself back up for someone who can treat you better. There are underlying reasons you still feel terrible about this, but are they really about him? Are they about fears for yourself? Something else? That's what you need to sort through to begin to process.
You talked about couples therapy, but have you tried going to an individual therapist on your own?
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Post by annalee on May 21, 2024 15:05:21 GMT
Thank you Alexandra for your response. As always you’re very insightful and your questions did help me to process my thoughts further. I am surprised by my unexpected struggles. I have been questioning about my inability to let go of his past mistakes after I found out about what he did to me the year before. My ex said he made a lot of sacrifices for us. He discarded his ex wife again and again to focus on us. He made significant progress despite a few occasional setbacks and I had zero tolerance. He said he had no romantic feelings towards his ex wife and he was finding it easier to detach from her gradually. He said I was being harsh and I was extremely unfair to him. Was I being inflexible ?
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Post by alexandra on May 21, 2024 17:30:29 GMT
You're being inflexible with yourself. He burned your trust through his own poor decision-making, yet you're distrusting yourself instead of him (when he's the one who gave you reason to lose trust!). Sure, his decisions and codependency may be based in his own trauma, but he's allowed them to deeply impacted you. A relationship can't be healthy without a basis of trust, and you gave him a chance to rebuild trust but sometimes it's just too far gone. He had a bad history with you and then went behind your back falling into old habits, lying about talking to his ex wife after only coming back to you because things didn't work out with her anyway! How are you supposed to trust and not feel like second choice in that situation?
Stop doubting yourself and your own feelings, give yourself that compassion instead of letting him guilt trip you and question yourself. I suspect that part of the reason you still feel bad with what ifs is because the entire fallout from his issues has made you doubt and distrust yourself so is impacting your identity. That's enough to make anyone feel unstable and upset. The other aspect this may be shining a light on is if you have past trauma from your life before meeting him that makes you question if you should doubt and distrust yourself instead of seeing his contributions more negatively. Did you have that dynamic with anyone else when you were younger? Is your attachment style anxious?
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Post by alexandra on May 22, 2024 16:04:35 GMT
The answer may not be him at all. You may have other stressors in your life or feelings of loneliness or it may be reminding you of something else painful and unhealed from earlier in your life. Feeling longing pain over him may be keeping you distracted if it feels "safer" than exploring what else is underneath but is keeping you stuck unable to resolve whatever is actually the issue.
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Post by annalee on May 22, 2024 17:16:58 GMT
I managed to improve my life, my home and my finances since the latest breakup. Life stressors in fact have been fewer…
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Post by annalee on May 22, 2024 17:25:06 GMT
I’m very frustrated with my current struggle because I was so confident to get over him fairly quickly this time round.
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Post by tnr9 on May 22, 2024 18:27:49 GMT
I’m very frustrated with my current struggle because I was so confident to get over him fairly quickly this time round. I personally think you are not giving yourself enough time to grieve…..you are trying to rush through a process of getting over him when what may have been stirred up has nothing to do with him. Instead of being frustrated…be curious. What is truly at the root of this….allow yourself a chance to explore it. It likely has little to do with reduced stressors and more to do with “needs” that were not met, or expectations of yourself that were not met or a bit of both. Grief takes time but it also provides us the best opportunity to get to the root of some deeply held hopes, unmet needs and expectations about self and others. Is there a therapist you could discuss this with?
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Post by tnr9 on May 22, 2024 18:31:36 GMT
My ex came across as an honest man with integrity. My family and friends liked him a lot. It shook my core values when he turned out to be deceptive, selfish, mean and manipulative (is it typical FA behaviour ?) He repeatedly challenged my boundaries… perhaps he was trying to make a point… to feel powerful and be in control? He said he had low self esteem and low empathy (more FA behaviour?) The evening when we said our last goodbye, he told me he was too complex for me and I would be better off to find someone more simple in the future. What he said really put me down. I believed in open communication while he held all his cards closed to his chest to get an upper hand. His behaviour hurt me a lot and shook my core values. Giving him a second chance was a stupid mistake and I paid high price for it. What lessons have I learned here? Didn’t I learn them all the first time he dumped me? Why I gave him another chance to hurt me again? Based on this response…it seems you have some deep rooted feelings about yourself and what you should have known, learned or did differently. Hindsight is always the worst tool to judge your actions. Can you find a way to be compassionate towards yourself for what you did not know at that time.
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Post by annalee on May 22, 2024 19:09:22 GMT
Yes, I’m disappointed in myself. I feel that my ex exposed my own inadequacy and I feel humiliated and I’m ashamed of my failings.
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Post by tnr9 on May 22, 2024 22:04:39 GMT
Yes, I’m disappointed in myself. I feel that my ex exposed my own inadequacy and I feel humiliated and ashamed of my failings. If a friend of yours expressed the same disappointment over having her inadequarcies exposed in an ending relationship….what would you say to her?
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Post by alexandra on May 22, 2024 23:04:12 GMT
That's also a good place to start with a therapist. Why is a relationship ending a failure? Sometimes people aren't compatible or someone's not ready or able to be a good partner. That's not a failure, it's just life. Why do his shortcomings define you? Why are relationships defining your identity? You tried to see the best in him with a second chance and he made things into a power struggle, so why does leaving a crappy relationship make you feel shame? You don't need to feel relief, breakups are sad, but a therapist can help you unravel why you'd blame yourself for all your partner's shortcomings.
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Post by annalee on May 23, 2024 16:39:55 GMT
I need to find a way to forgive myself and to forgive my ex.
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Post by annalee on May 23, 2024 17:04:06 GMT
forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us
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Post by tnr9 on May 23, 2024 18:07:38 GMT
I’m ashamed that I failed myself. I let myself down and I allowed horrible things happen to me not just once but twice. I gave this man another opportunity to hurt me again. I have accepted that my ex will never be the right person for me… or for anyone who wants a healthy relationship. I might be a bit harsh on myself. There were lessons I missed to learn the first round he dumped me. What exactly did I miss? Please help me to learn some lessons here. How can I protect myself and not make the same mistake again? Honestly…it isn’t about what you missed in him….it is about learning to love, forgive and accept yourself just as you are. You made an honest mistake based on the hope that he was capable of being a different person. You have learned that his words and actions were incongruent and he was unable to be a good partner for you. That in t self is the lesson. Going forward, turn the attention from forgiving him to accepting yourself. I can tell you that growing in love, forgiveness and acceptance of who you are will lead to better matches, far more than looking for warning signs. I agree with Alexandra that a therapist can truly help you on your journey forward.
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